Auditude… you realize he was referencing the b5 s4 with 10k in mods… not the b8 s4.
You’ve misread his post. He was complimenting the b8 s4 in saying it was easy to make it beat the b5, which had 10k in mods… and then threw in the rs4 as being capable of easily beating the b5 s4.
He is not saying the b8 s4 needed 10k in mods, which I think is what you are assuming.
Regardless, rs4 runs low 12s with tune/piggies, simple lol.
Yes, they’re not talking to you and trying to bring you back on point. It’s all about ‘physiology’ lol.
rs4 tony, are you rs4_tony in instagram?
Regardless I’m done here. I said everything I had to say.
I’m not hating on you or fighting with you but just want to make sure you understand that you have a tendency to knock the S4 and raise the RS4 on a pedestal in posts all the time.
I had a B6 S4 and my dad had a B7 RS4. Trust me I love Audi V8’s and I’d rock an RS4 in a heartbeat. Just making it clear that an S4 doesn’t need more $ in mods than an RS4 to run good times, in fact it needs a lot less.
I belong To another forum that has a anti-room basically where members can go to e-fight. Maybe we should create one for you guys.
No he’s referring to the B8 and he’s done it in a lot of threads.
There’s not one RS4 on the 1/4 mile list with just Piggies and a tune that has run a low 12 second 1/4.
Lol
We have a war room, and that is where Auditude should have started this.
I wasn’t really looking to start hell- even though that’s what turned out of this. Just trying to clear some stuff up that needed to be cleared up.
You’re done here because you realise you were dead wrong and half a dozen people have come in to tell you that you just misread the entire thread.
This all started Pete because you didn’t read what I wrote. I mentioned that a B8 modded like the video car would run mid to low 12s. A b5 S4 with $10,000 in mods could barely hang with it at low speeds (through the quarter mile for example). A B7 RS4 would also run mid to low 12s with barely any mods.
You turned that into
I put together that giant quarter mile list on the site, entering every data point with my own keyboard. Don’t forget that I know more about B5 S4, B7 RS4, B8 S4 quarter mile times than you ever will.
I have no problem with Saki. I just wanted to clear this stuff up. We’ve been on good terms and I’d like to keep it that way since I feel both of us are good contributors to the forum.
I got some points across that I needed to get across, and same for you. I feel better now.
Sorry if I came off overly aggressive just that stuff has been bothering me.
I’m a fan of all automobiles especially all Audi’s and the last thing i want is to bash other Audi platforms. I always give credit where credits do, and the RS4 is an exceptional machine and runs very well. But so does the S4 and both do with similar money in mods.
You can’t go wrong either way, it’s just a matter of preference.
Yes that’s me why
Pete - his “$10k in mods” comment was about the B5. GO BACK AND READ THE FIRST PAGE!
You’ve totally misread Sak’s posts.
I’m not referring to that post.
Ok, you never said that straight up and although you have referenced to that I’ll just say I’m wrong and leave it out of the argument.
You never “knock” the S4 however as soon as you throw a compliment it’s way there’s always reference to an RS4 with minimal mods matching it’s performance.
You always in every thread give low ball $ for RS4 mods. Like a piggy/tune RS4 running low 12’s when there’s a 12.4x on the list and that’s it.
You just said that the B8 S4 is stupid expensive to mod (2,000?!?! For a tune a pulley).
Yeah it might be $1,800 for a tune and pulley but the performance were getting IMO is worth the money. That’s just my opinion of course.
Yes, you probably do know more about all the platforms from a 1/4 mile standpoint. You are very knowledgable I never would bash you for that. I respect you.
A JHM tune + piggies RS4 will most certainly hang with any tune and exhaust B8 S4 (a mid to low 12s car) in a quarter mile run. If you want an $8,000 modlist on the B8 S4 to make you feel better, that’s cool. Can I spend $8,000 on the RS4 too? if so, let me dial in a JHM Vortech V3 supercharger kit ($7900) + piggies (free). I will run in the 11s on california 91. Do you really think this is going to go well for the B8 S4?
So, to stay on topic, I will say again: tune + exhaust B8 S4 = tune + piggies RS4 = most stage III B5 S4 (K04 or equivalent turbos).
Sad (for the B5) but true .
[/quote]
$8,000 in mods in the B8 S4 and all the RS4 needs is the blower but all the supporting mods including the clutch is not included in that price. Tsivas doesn’t have a clutch so Saki will add that on and say 10k in the B8 S4 when realistically I put 6500 into my car including Testpipes and a clutch and it was 6500.
I brought it up because Tsivas $8000 modlist becasue he was boasting about how he beat Tony’s car. Seriously? Tony is literally not even modified, and Tsivas has just about everything thrown at it possible. Who cares what the race result was? I mentioned the JHM blower because it was a stupid comparison and totally irrelevant.
You asked if a lightly modded RS4 could really hang with a B8 S4 with tune etc. and I said OF COURSE> I asked you to remember your dad’s REVO tune, the most aggressive tune of them all, and Tony’s RS4 which hung in there really well. He wasn’t even fucking modified.
I asked Tsivas to remember racing Paul to 130…where they were tied…when paul was barely modified. Tsivas had tune + whatever else.
Is this that hard? Why Tsivas brings up his race this week vs. Tony is beyond me. Now show me where I said a B8 S4 with tune + pulley + intake + catback + whatever else he has won’t beat a stock tune barely modded Rs4. No moron would say that. Of course the B8 will win that race. Why are you and Tsivas strutting that out? It’s irrelevant and not remotely close to the discussion at hand.
you don’t need a clutch on an RS4 to run a stage 1 supercharger. This is simple stuff man. I explained this earlier. $7900 for the blower, piggies are free DIY. Bam…you have a very fucking potent car that will put up 117 mph trap speeds easing out of the gate. On 91 california gas. You really want to argue this point? It’s a cfuge. It’s not a TVSr blower. It’s not adding 200 WTQ at 2000 RPM. IT’s adding loads of top end. It doesn’t hit like a ton of bricks, and cause your clutch to explode.
The stock RS4 clutch is VERY strong, unless you’re a shit driver (see mickf29 et al). There’s really no reason to argue this point. You don’t need a catbcak. You don’t need JHM downpipes. You don’t need LW rotors and a shifter. You need NONE of it to put up a car that would obliterate tsivas or you on 91 octane. It wouldn’t be remotely close from a dig or from a roll. That’s the only reason I mentioned it…it would be like clubbing a baby seal…which is what Tsivas vs. Tony is.
Again, I said mid to low 12s cars. Not 11 second cars. Not $10,000 modlist cars.
Mid to low 12s can be had for under $1000 in an RS4.
It can be had for $3,000 in a B8 S4 (liike that guy in the video).
It needs $10,000 in a B5 S4. The B5 S4 is dead.
I agree with you that it will be an awesome car and a very fun car indeed. I just don’t think it’ll last very long on all other 100% stock components. Otherwise people wouldn’t be running JHM clutches with bolt ons and APR wouldn’t have ran their DXD clutch kit on their 1/4 mile runs.
I agree and disagree. Again this is my opinion and after my dad had clutch issues with his RS4 I find it hard to beleive it will last…
I’m sure you have perfected the 1/4 mile on your RS4 and maybe you drive it so perfectly (which I believe 100% with your knowledge on the platform) that you don’t have issues. However I don’t think that speaks for the masses
Just wondering lol, searched for jhm on there and started following u a couple weeks back
Ok that all I agree with you on.
I would just say that the S4 needs around $2100 in mods and the RS4 around $1,000, yeah.
Piggy/Tune RS4 vs. Tune/Intake/Pulley S4 on 93 can both reach that performance for 2k or under and be a very fast car.
I still haven’t seen just a Tune/Piggy RS4 go low 12’s but I’m gonna take your word for it.
Truce?