Why do big turbo b5 s4 owners always announce that their cars have base tunes?

Could it be because they don’t have the money to complete the tune? Maybe it’s pre excuse for future disappointments? or because Epl needed a way to get more money from their customers?

If all of the above is true, I would love to see some of the final tunes and how they enhanced the performance of those so called BEASTS that everyone were talking about.

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Combo D please

All of the above?

lol

I definitely don’t think it’s a money issue for the guys who are dumping 4 and 5 digits on a build.
I definitely don’t think it’s some trick EPL does to keep their customers paying them.

I honestly think people are just terrified of the quarter mile for one…so they often try to sandbag their expectations (pre-excuse as faw put it). Everyone is excited to announce their build. Everyone is excited to provide photos of the build and updates, and everyone else loves to follow along. However when the build is done and it comes time to hit the dragstrip to provide some evidence of how the car is performing, people get cold feet after seeing so many people/cars in the past struggle to match their dyno success. Ironically, this is especially true with the dyno superstar companies, across all platforms. The companies who post the best dyno sheets seem to struggle at the strip whether it’s a B5 (EPL), B6/7 (PES, everone but JHM really), B8 (GIAC).

As a result of this, you see guys like one member of this site who is happy to show us his dynosheet (who wouldn’t be…500 whp is ridiculously awesome)…who is happy to do some pulls with various beatable cars…however when asked to hit the strip, suddenly the goal is to do better than 13s. What? ‘Better than 13s’ is basically the goal of a full bolt on stage II car. Not a 500 whp car.

On fresh motor builds i like to start out on wg pressure/low boost to make sure the car is solid and to break it in. Depending on the setup the base file can range from 200 to 450whp. final tunes can range from 380 to 10000+++whp
You are really gonna pay a premium for any thing over 10000+++ though.

I wonder who you are talking about there…

The only actual races I’ve done vs a willing car was the 476rwhp Saleen and the 511awhp Evo. When I raced peter in his stage 2 car, it wasn’t a race. The other vids on my youtube are of my Avant that is only chipped

either of those two mega-whp cars have timeslips to back up those dyno claims? Or are they dyno fast?

calling a car ‘XXX whp’ doesn’t convey shit and doesn’t make it shit. It made that whp on what dyno? the tuner’s dyno? with what correction factors? With what dyno parameters?

The timeslip is a lot easier to compare, so what were those cars’ best times?

they are all just fuckin pussies,all those 600+whp epl/amd cars that is!!! i trapped mid 120s and never dynod above 470whp . they CLAIM 600whp and trap mid 120`s fucking compulsive lieing pussies.i dont give a fuck if the dozen or so cars with 600+whp epl/amd cars have pussy ass non driving faggots. their trap speed should be 135 AT LEAST

I will over look the 10,000 typo and assume you meant 1000whp. How many 1000 whp or close to it cars have you built or tuned?

he’s definitely joking…saying 10,000 in place of infinity

lol, 10,000 is what i meant… never hit anything close to 1000 yet.

Where do you live spturks? Would you like to meet up?

Don’t do it Turks…he’s going to tap dance all over you.

True Turks, it would suck to get powned by a contract signing pussy…

Hahah

hey TWEETY,I live in jersey and if you want to TAKE one for the team LMK ??? PUSSY

Turks, you seem to be a total asshat, I wish you prove me wrong, but with each post you make it further cements me belief

I havt to say most of that is BS its excuese that B5 guys put out to keep themselves feeling better. Now I can take some of what judeisnotobscure says into effect but lets be honest most guys don’t get this treatment. I know JHM did this for a few of there big hp B6 and even B5 guys.

Still the B5 while a great car seemes to have owerns with bigger excuses for its failer. Seems to be the normal for when a b5 losses that it has a boost leak or bad 02 or bad egt or a slipping clutch… who am I kidding this can go on for ever

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/ainoble/excuses_for_ricers.jpg

Perfect, let’s meet up Tuesday the 19th you give me a time and place and I will be there. Should be fun.