Not only the TTRS, but I think the Golf R has the potential to be batshit insane with a built motor.
There was some consternation at APR not getting the new 1740 onto the RS4 (only the B8) but they probably saw this coming. Why compete with JHM in the RS4 world when the kit is this good?
Between the JHM V8 S4’s, the APR TTRS/Golf R, it’s a great time to be a VW/Audi fan…
The quick cars I’ve seen are on race.
regarding the comparisons, there’s certainly no problem with comparisons or pollution if it’s done civilly and people don’t get butthurt. If someone comes in and trolls it up, certainly that is met with disdain. However if someone says 'wonder which platform will be quicker once XXX happens. That’s what this site is for.
Do all of the tunes read maf the same way? I don’t think they do.
Further if you take an RS4 with a stock exhaust and tune and do a maf reading, then do the same with a catless 2.75" exhaust and catback (that makes the car about 20-30 WHP stronger, and quite a bit faster) and do a maf reading, you can see WORSE readings, even though the car is faster.
I would like to know if UGR’s and Heffner’s twin turbo cars use a modified fuel system. It is great that JHM uses the stock fuel system and it has always been a bad bet to bet against JHM. Now lets see 10.99 or faster on the 93 octane tune.
Aww, that sucks. I have about 5 spots in and around the Bay Area I can go to for an occasional 100.
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Understood… I just prefer to compare once I have more real experience with the car and not use others times and such… I am a fan of all Audi’s so it’s nice to see any model do well… I just figured let this post be more about the accomplishments of the RS4 and 4.2… Once I start modifying I’ll have plenty to talk about ;D
What sucks?
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/Screenshot_2013-05-23-08-40-54-1_zps914765cb.jpg
Lol
Yes he is so crazy awesome that his sixty foot times on the 126 mph runs were high 1.8 seconds… In other words slower than good stock runs (1.82-1.83).
His crazy awesome driving didn’t have anything to do with the times they ran. The kit did and the rs4 did. If he launches the car well, it will be a whole different ballgame. This goes for the other two kits as well. They all had shitty 60’ times and all left at least a full tenth on the table.
Think it was to me relaying no pump 100 within any reasonable distance to me to conveniently use…
race gas is strange to me. It’s like installing a bigger turbo, then taking it off.
I want to know how fast my car is all the time, not just some of the time. if I have to do something weird to my car to make it fast (like stop, find race fuel, put it in the tank and hope that I don’t have too much pump fuel to dillute it) or pull out all the seats etc, I don’t really care about it. It’s a useless benchmark. Fun to see what the car does, but not realistic.
If I come across a stage III K04 B5 S4 in my bone stock Rs4 and we do a run from 30-40 mph, I can promise you he is in trouble up until he hits 80 mph because he will be running pump gas, not race gas. I have known like 2 people who ran race gas in their car full time. One of them is on this forum (primetime on his non-daily driven B8 S4), and the other one did so on a race car he rarely drove (a friend with a retarded Mazda).
Everyone else runs pump gas, unless they line up a race or go to the strip. Then they put in race gas. To me that’s backwards. Who cares what the car can do when you initiate a circumstance that is a once in a while/very rare…and that you will undo very shortly when you go back to pump gas.
I think running meth and being tuned for it makes more sense than running race gas. That’s a ‘modification’ and that’s something that is always with you and indicates how the car is running all the time.
I can get on board with that. Would be nice to have some readily available on say maybe every 4th fill up just to renew that kick in pants rush…we all get used to the cars power level and want more from time to time…at least I do I should say.
I’ve also been told by a well respected tuner that tuning for meth is not the best idea safety wise for obvious reasons like system failure or running out of meth. Seems the ecu and tune is “smart” enough to still adapt and see results without stipulating need and tuned for.
I find it hilarious when people quote their race gas power, even though their car is driven around on pump. On the flip side, I give great credit to those that tune their vehicle for both pump and race, and show the comparisons, and don’t try to falsely represent the vehicle’s capabilities.
Another reason for using race gas is for safety margin. I do this when I track my other car (built STi). That car is tuned to pump 93, but on a track day, I put in race gas (if available) for safety margin.
data are you on any other forums? don’t recognize the name…
No problem - I am an Audi n00b. Trying hard to read, learn, and contribute. Have to say there is a FANTASTIC amount of attention being given to the RS4 right now. 
I have joined here, AudiZine, and AudiWorld. Same username. You’ll find over 10,000 posts on various Subaru forums over the last 13 years, LOL.
Here is my introductory post: http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=285.msg43522#msg43522
I myself am not a race gas fan. I’d just be foolish to run race gas and think this is anything other then an advantage over the norm.
I also am on other forums but find the fact checking and openness of the discussions on this forum very refreshing.
I agree with Haps on the kick in the pants and I also do what Data does at the track. Shit, when we get a cold front, it’s another kick in the pants! The addiction side of me will put race gas in when the weather calls for a drop in temps!
How’s everyone feel about E85? I’m warming up since we have a local pump and a calibrator who loves it so much.
That stuff sure seems to a difference maker power wise, no?
FWIW, local dyno day showed a built 2.7t produce 130 more HP (675) with e85 vs pump 91. That is more than noticeable.
I was warming up to it as well with a brand new station opening up in my home town!
Lol didn’t read my post all the way there did you? Quoted out of context and you’re forgetting to mention the run I was referencing where it wasa mid-hi 1.7 60ft that he pulled. Didn’t lose traction in first and shifted like a beast. Obviously if the car made no power he wouldn’t be low 11s, but he is one hell of a driver and a 10 year record holder on k03/k04 turbos aka awesome driver.
how is it quoted out of context shitforbrains? I posted a fucking screen capture.
you referenced the 1.79 time HOURS later after I made this post.
Nobody said he’s not an awesome driver. I just said that when he tied the AMD times he was certainly not driving awesome on the times they released. That’s pretty clear to see. When they ran the tune that produced the 124-126 mph trap speeds, he cut 1.85+ 60 foot times.
The reason you are mentioning this ‘great driving’ is to diminish the result that the hardware and software produced, or to find an excuse for your boyfriends at AMD being in 2nd place. Unfortunately everyone see right through you and knows that there’s a bunch left in this car, and that it equalled/bettered the competition with some pretty normal driving, unlike your claim.
When Jason gets this thing running with a 93 tune on it, and manages to launch it AND gets DA that is less than +600 feet, you will see what it can do. Until then, we all await the hail mary pass by AMD to try to beat JHM, probably on a customer’s car. Hell not probably…definitely. We know that busted ass AMD can’t even afford an inhouse B5 S4, so they practice on you and indeepshit and killedS4 etc
Dude…go work on your tap dancing and jazz hands.