Nobody is looking for a real failure rate. We’re looking for a forum failure rate…and it’s incredibly high.
Sorry, but I’ve never seen a 30% problem rate on something so serious for such a new car since stage 2 B5 guys were destroying their K03 turbos with Giac + lemmi tunes 10-11 years ago.
The only bearing “enthusiast” has is they are more likely to abuse their cars. Still not solid statistical evidence no matter how you “flip” it.
So what is your point? That this poll “indicates” that the DSG trans is a POS?
my point was that it’s a shocking data point. I was quite surprised to see how widespread the problems were. As many of the guys who post here suggested they haven’t had many problems. Of course jspazz had his mech replaced and may need that again, but otherwise, the other 12 or so are fine.
This poll is pretty surprising was all
p.s. cheer the fuck up. Everyone else took the data for what it was…a surprising collection of user experiences. You? Acted like an engineering student in a stats course and then overreacted like a butthurt bitch. What’s next…going to call me a b8 hater?
B8 hater
We’ll I’m the only one I know from this forum to have the mech replaced. Maybe theKB? So maybe it’s not as bad as it sounds. But I’ve had both the speed sensor and the gearbox selector issue. And a fucked crankshaft reluctor sensor. Even the service manager said “run away”…they dreaded seeing my car come in. It’s made in Canada at this point.
What? Could you please clarify this statement highlighted in bold above?
My only point was take a poll like that with a grain of salt. Not butthurt at all. I don’t even have a DSG car.
I do think it’s hilarious when a “failure rate” conclusion is drawn from an internet poll though. Thanks for the laugh.
What do I need to clarify? Do car enthusiasts not drive their cars harder than the average Joe? The most common DSG issue has been the mech which is located inside the trans and the gets overheated and fails. Cars that are driven hard run higher fluid temperatures.
Enthusiasts do drive their cars harder and there’s probably a skew towards people who had problems, but those numbers are still somewhat disappointing. The S4 is an enthusiast’s car and shouldn’t experience widespread major failures with so few miles from being driven hard.
I just don’t get why more dsgs on other platforms aren’t failing
The Australian guy with the rs5 had problems I guess. Not sure on the vw golf crowd.
after a cursory check, I find 7 technical service bulletins relating to this transmission. Audi is aware of problems with the transmission control system, hence the bulletins.
effects 2010-13 S4 and S5 with S-tronic 7 speed
and 2013 RS5
Audi’s states that poor internal contact area on circuit boards will lead to faults.
replacement vin specific circuit board #0B53998009C or 0B5398009D
The poll was made after mentioning to someone looking for a used 2010 B8 DSG “the mech unit failure rate on the 2010’s is horrible, do your research”. Me and saxon got into it and he said the statement is ridiculous, so the poll was created to support or deny that claim. At the time I said it was 50% percent, to which this poll would indicate it is 30% of people at Audizine. I don’t really give 2 fucks about how “scientific” the sampling is, but the conclusion is you should not be surprised if you have a mech unit failure. These cars aren’t 8 years old, many of them are still under warranty and most, if not all, people who have had a mech unit replaced, had it done under warranty or good willed. The point isn’t to devalue anyone’s ride or talk shit on the trans, but to give some perspective when it comes time for Audi to man up and cover a recall (like they did for the transverse 7-spd).
The more important issue, which seems to have been missed by nearly everyone looking at the poll, is “did Audi redesign the DSG for the B8.5, and has the failure rate gone down”. I understand that that most B8’s will have more miles on them, but B8.5’s have been out since summer 2012 and I’d guess many people in that poll have at least 30k on the odometer, which is well into the “mech failure territory”.
So conclusion from that poll is, whatever Audi did during the re-design, whether it be gearing, software programming or physically changing the unit - they have reduced the failure rate.
welcome to the forum drob, glad to have you over here…
Thanks Ron, always been a lurker here, you guys produce some great content (and drama haha)…
Welcome aboard…wasn’t that the Hawaiian guy telling us the DSG is doomed? Tommy tai?
failed twice here… driving like a POS on stock calibration since the last replacement. Anxiously awaiting a the time when I can pick up a car with a zF 8 speed. My significant other just picked up a Jag F-type and I have had a chance to drive those on the track as well and that transmission is something to behold. Much smoother for day to day driving and almost as fast as the DSG.
RS7? ;D
My fear is that if this happens Audi will not cover it due to mods even though there are known TSBs out for the issue. There was at least one thread over on Az where this had happened. Poster took the car in with stage 1 and was told he would have to pay to fix it. Haven’t heard from the poster in a while so don’t know what the final outcome was. Last I heard he had been told the same thing by AoA. I get the pay to play ideology and I have no problem paying for what I break, but if there is known issue that so far hasn’t been definitively determined to be caused by a tune, then it should be covered.
I agree 100% with this sentiment. If the issue is bad/common enough to issue a bulletin about it they should cover it without issue especially if the issue is presenting itself under the conditions of the TSB.
Only thing that will get things going is people complaining to the NHTSA at this point. That’s how the MKV DSG’s got the 10 year warranty.