He is in Allentown PA, Eastern Part of PA. Not close to auditude, idk where tsivas is.
it’s buried in the middle of his post. here:
[QUOTE=Flying Tomatoes;9272499]The only drag track I had ever been to before was Maple Grove back in the day when I use to race my Pontiac but I had not been to any strip in a good 5 years.
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I feel ya…
…and yes i was making fun of Auditude and thinking he will find almost 3 tenths in his mad shifting skills.
Yup. We have all been waiting for the fourth fastest rs4 pump gas time to really revive the platform. Ft went a whole 0.14 faster and no MPH faster than TTS did… 2 years ago.
LOL
This guy is even dumber than gibbon
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What is with this obsession with what gas a car is running at the track? When you go to the track you should bring everything you got. I’ve never heard of this except for on this forum.
From my point of view as a consumer, I want to know that the car is running in a configuration that I can achieve. I don’t have ready access to race gas.
Primetime OTOH, uses race gas for daily driving IIRC, so that’s cool with me.
TTS is not exactly an easily available (know its on ONE car stateside) option here in NA. while that is a valid statement while looking at a list of times, the RS community in NA has been waiting for this kind of performance. It just now is what i would consider available in AMD, now APR and very soon JHM.
ha although id still love to have a 1320…
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And this is bad ass!
I don’t think there is an obsession. It is just something that is very relevant. If you want to run race gas 24/7…cool Some people are lucky and have access to higher octane or E85. I personally want to see what my car does in daily driver form (pump, full interior, street tires etc.) this way I know what exactly my car is as it sits.
Sure you can bring everything you got, that is cool too and for bragging rights. Most customers aren’t going to run 104+ though…so saying I have a supercharger kit and APR went 10.60 means nothing compared to someone saying I have the JHM kit and identical mods to a car that went 11.12 in street trim, street tires, and on pump gas.
I don’t think we are against anything here, it just means less to the majority of potential customers who know they will never run their car like that.
Why do you always come here to bitch? What happened to 3ldickbeater?
You were doing well up until that last paragraph. Just can’t help yourself eh?
I’m not bitching, I’m asking. It just doesn’t make sense seeing as all 3 companies are clearly trying to get the bragging rights. You are correct in saying you want to see what a car can do on a pump gas to simulate real world results, but at the same time APR just did exactly that. A guy with an apr kit went almost the same time as apr did with their car on almost the same setup, in his first visit to the track in that car. The other two companies have yet to do that.
its a valid question
The reason is simple: we aren’t discussing the quarter mile as a sport. We are using it as a benchmark to compare the performance afforded our cars by various modifications.
Since these are our daily drivers, it is most relevant to know how the cars do in the format in which we will be driving them.
Pump gas
Full interior
Street tires
Full exhaust
Simple enough?
Let me offer another example. Three turbo kits are available for your stock rs6 (pretend it’s stock)
Kit 1. Gives you 11.4 @120 mph quarter mile times on pump gas. Race gas it goes 11.2 @ 123
Kit 2. Gives you 11.1 @ 124 mph quarter mile times on race gas but 11.8@118 on pump gas.
Kit 3. Gives you 11.3@122 mph quarter mile times on race gas, but only when your interior is stripped out, your cat back is pulled off and when you run drag slicks. On pump gas with your interior in and street tires, it goes 11.7@119.
Which would you buy assuming they’re all the same price, same quality work etc ?
For me it’s simple . I want the one that makes my car fast as I drive it…on pump gas, with full interior, full exhaust and on street tires. I want kit #1.
waiting for what???
MRC went 11.4 ages ago
AMD went 11.3 eight months ago
JHM went 11.1 eight months ago
Who on earth is waiting?
AMD is in production and on 3 cars, JHM is in production and is on at least half a dozen cars.
Are you quattroworld guys really not aware of this stuff?
Badblue made a statement that makes it look like he is completely ignorant of what TTS, MRC, AMD and JHM have achieved over the last 24 months, and I lol’d at him.
HUH?
The TTS 11.4 time from 2011 was a customer. DannyRS4. Also half a dozen other TTS cars have gone to various strips in Europe. They don’t qualify for our list as there are very few actual tracks, but TTS has replicated everything.
Dan @ JHM went and set all records for the rs4 on pump gas in his blue car. Their customer’s grey car from detroit beat him going 11.12. JHM released only the customer car times. Dan has since gone back and shattered these numbers and we will hear more soon. Another JHM customer went last week :
Stage 1
6 psi
Pump gas
JHM downpipes
stock catback
Stock wheels etc
11.6
So again, not sure if you’re just out of the loop too not being from here, but a lot of this stuff you’re saying doesn’t add up.
PS How’s that compulsive lying maniac stalker friend of yours doing? Is he getting the help he needs?
That’s actually a tough call for me. I barely drive my rs6 it’s certainly not my daily.
I get what you are saying but these records for certain setups seem absurd. If everyone is going to the track to get a number they should do whatever they can to get the best number.
You need to cut that shit out. Reid is a good guy and certainly not a liar, let alone a compulsive one. Or a maniac or a stalker. Assuming you mean Reid anyways.
He isn’t talking about Reid…daddy Corbett. But he is kind of a maniac…who the fuck calls a dealership to nose around about a JHM car to then report back to the weasel at AMD? Oh ya…Reid Antways that is another argument.
It’s cool to be the fastest, but that only lasts for so long. Let me ask you this…if you go to the track and set the fastest US RS6 record and provide a mod list and details like full interior, street tires, E85 and then some other guy goes out with his RS6 completely gutted on slicks and beats you, will you? A)say I’m still the fastest full interior (street legal) RS6 B)accept defeat by that person and those that consider anything being fair game or C) gut your car, buy slicks and chase the record as fastest “no matter what”
I can tell you 99% of us will not gut our cars to chase records so that is why every mod should be relevant. Like Saki said it’s a benchmark…we aren’t record chasers.
Gutting a car and running race gas are two completely different things. Adding race gas to a car takes all the added efforts of just pouring a liquid into your tank. Gutting a car is a completely different animal.
I see it differently. If you work at a shop and are using the strip to demonstrate delta vs the myriad of stock rs4 times from magazines and owners etc , why are you ricing it up and pulling your interior when the cars you’re comparing to didn’t ? Who are you impressing with that delta? Young kids and b5 people so far mostly.
In theory a tuner isn’t trying to set a record time for an irrelevant setup (slicks, stripped). They’re trying to show delta. They’re a business showing a product. If a customer wants to rice it up and pull his interior and catback off and put slicks on, so be it. But if he yells ‘my kit is the fastest’ it’s going to ring hollow with lots of owners of the platform.
Apr went 11.1on pump, full interior and street tires. Then 11.0@129 when they switched to a 100 tune and fuel. That’s awesome. Then they pulled the entire interior out, catback off and a most aggressive race file and 104 in to go 10.60. I thought that was fun for an experiment, but now the guy is talking suit saying their kit is fastest because of that time? APR did this a few weeks ago and their tuner even talked shit abut how he’s the fastest. He used to be a neon and evo racer so that is starting to make sense now. Ricer culture. Like for like, they went 11.15,tts went 11.42, and went 11.36, and JHM went 11.12. Nobody else bothered to run on race gas or stripped. Nobody cares lol. But when Apr didn’t beat JHM they had to rice it up. Hollow.
interestingly on the most active RS4 forum in the world (RS246), nobody cared much for their 10.6 on slicks with no interior or catback…they focused solely on the 11.15 they ran in street trim with pump gas. Same thing happened here. Then a bunch of non-rs4 owners wonder why we care. Maybe it’s the nature of the car.
A $5,000 dedicated drag car with no other purpose? Sure pull parts off and make it a drag car. Who cares. Have no doors for all I care. If you’re there for sport, go all out. However the RS4 is not a dedicated drag car for anyone.
If you’re selling a $19,995 supercharger (APR TVS1740 rumoured cost ) for a car that is still $30,000-50,000 by pulling the leather seats out, putting drag strip tires on and leaving the exhaust off, you’re missing the market…by a mile. NOBODY drives their RS4 like that.
Case in point, APR’S first customer, the subject of this thread. He went full interior. Pump gas. Full exhaust.
I agree to an extent but if I come across you on pump gas in your daily driven RS4 with kit 2 from my post a while back… And we are on hwy 75 and I’m on pump as well with Kit 1, what now? You’re not yelling out the windows “let’s get off and go back to my house first…I have a can of URT that I need”. Nope. You’re racing now, and you’re losing.
If your car is only fast some of the time, it’s going to be a pretty disappointing car. I want a car that is fast all of the time.
That was basically what I meant, but I know Corbett is just looking at reasons to argue with me. So 99% of the RS4 customer base will also probably never put race gas in their tank. It would be nice if they did decide to go with some race gas with say…the APR RS4 kit, that they wouldn’t need to switch tunes. Similar to the B6/7 S4 JHM tunes that were adaptive up to 98-100octane. Why does the car need a separate tune?