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B6/7 S4/RS4
#81

some people just tune differently.

You can tune parameters for say 93 on one tune, and 100 on another (especially when you have a patented program switching system like APR)

Or you can tune with parameters with some elasticity to let the car take advantage of higher octane, but the tune will also protect the engine and be safe if it’s only running say 91 or 93.

I think the JHM tunes will take advantage of around high 90s even if it’s a pump gas tune.

Case in point, they just ran a car on California 91 with stage 1 tune and boost. It trapped 118 MPH. They ran the same car with some race gas, but still on the 91 tune, and it trapped 123 MPH…even trapped 125 on one pass with a terrible launch.

#82

Where’s the rest of that 11.6 slip? Curious.

Why does JHM play games with their slips? APR posts when they go. JHM is a good shop, why make it seem shady when it’s not? Just saying it seemed really shady when AMD wouldn’t say what they ran, and it didn’t go down well here. This looks similar.

#83

It’s a customer’s car. Ask the customer for it.

How is it ‘shady’ to not share everything with people like you? How are they playing games? You realise JHM have half a dozen development cars (B6 S4, B7 RS4, B7 A4, B6 A4, B8 S5, B5 S4) , and they take them to the strip probably 10-15 occasions over the course of developing product, don’t you? Should they report every step of the way to appease Jspazz?

I talk to the JHM guys periodically, and they share information on what’s happening, and I will post that info here, as will other customers. Is that shady?

Go ask APR Arin how the other cars they had at the strip with the RS4 did. He didn’t share? OOOOOH…SHADY!!! Or just working on things until they’re ready to share final results. Or why doesn’t Arin post every single dyno run they do. OOOOOH SHADY!!! Or just fine tuning.

You’re just deliberately being ridiculous.

#84

Hey just asking a question, don’t lash out.

Obviously there is a 11.6 slip and a JHM time that is faster than APRs time. You mentioned it…

Usually you’re trying hard to get to the bottom of all the slips and don’t stop until it’s posted here. I figured you’d agree with me in that it would be better that JHM posts their times. Anyway if it’s a sore topic I’m not interested in the argument.

Edit. Funny what costs you karma points around here. Nice.

#85

You just questioned the integrity of JHM. You called them shady. If you don’t get why people are giving you negative karma for a really pathetic attempted callout of the most above board company in the 4.2 world, , I don’t know what to say. Maybe you want to reconsider that and apologize to JHM. Sometimes people write things that don’t come out right.

The 11.6 slip is a stage 1 car. Not sure you read the note. It’s not on our list because I don’t have all of the information. They went 11.6 @ 118 with pump gas and 6 PSI of boost. Car had stock wheels and catback, and the 60’ was 1.8something. When the information comes out, it will all be posted. The car is going back to the strip again, so let’s see what it does. It’s not really a record (I guess it’s the fastest of the lower ouput kits if that means anything), so I’m not sure what the big deal is or why we should doggedly pursue the information.

JHM will post their information when they’re ready I’m sure. They like to make launch videos etc. I think you are forgetting (or maybe you just don’t know) they’re the ones who made the dragstrip the standard of proof for these Audis. Nothing shady from them at all.

#86

I’m sure JHM will post their times and a video during a release…like they always have. JHM basically puts out a product and that is it, everything speaks for itself. APR pumps up the forums, teases…throw out some nice dyno charts and then eventually releases stuff. Hell even their kit hasn’t been officially finalized or released.

What is shady is going to the strip…hiding results…hiring another tuner…going back a few weeks later and releasing a kit with basically no testing on the new tune. Do all the other companies share every aspect of R&D? Nope

#87

Funny, comparing JHM witholding their record times to AMD witholding their terrible times. That’s the definition of an attempt at shit-stirring.

JHM went 11.34, enough to beat AMD, so they posted it. They later went 11.12 when trying to get into the 10s on pump gas and street trim, but were unable to with the stock fuel pumps, so they held back till they could do a complete test of the kit with upgraded fuel pumps. That’s shady? lol

#88

It wasn’t a callout of JHM, if you can read what I wrote again, I say they are a good shop.

It was a callout of YOU for using times and not backing them up with slips. So again don’t lash out when I ask for the slips. Usually you’d be in my side in the matter. I just want I know how fast a stage I RS4 is. Now I know a little more, 11.6@118. Great. Don’t lose it!

#89

Good point. Is there a release date on the horizon for these kits? What was Tomatos’ angle for getting one early?

#90

Maybe I’m confused. You said before the 11.12 was a customer, not JHM themselves, and later they went and shattered that record. Ok sorry, I don’t get it now.

I am not against JHM, I think they do good stuff. I prefer to cut the BS and state times. Otherwise it gets confusing and all I want to know is what the slip read and maybe a video is nice.

Where am I wrong here?

#91

Not sure what’s confusing.

11.12 8 psi kit was a customer car.

11.6 6 psi kit was another customer car.

Not sure what you’re not following.

The Sprint Blue car has also been to the strip 10 times over the last 3 years. They haven’t shared those times yet.

#92

Haven’t seen anything. Heard a ‘rumour’ the other day, which I shared with Arin.

  1. the B8 S4 1740 kit is 90% cancelled because it’s not making enough low end torque (Arin laughed at this one)

  2. the RS4 kit is $18,000 for the kit + $2000 for an upgrade to your stock fuel pumps = $20,000. (Arin didn’t address that, which makes me think it’s accurate)

#93

Ok so JHM had nothing to do with setting the 11.12 time, and have no faster time yet. And nobody has slips to share. That’s very clear now, not sure why we’re arguing, but whatever.

#94

No they had everything to do with the 11.12. It was their kit on their customer’s car, and Jason from JHM drove the car.

The timeslip (11.12) was shared a week or two ago and the time is on the list at audirevolution.net/quartermile. You’re just out of the loop, understandably.

#95

Maybe. None of this info is on the 11.12 thread, so no, this is all news to me.

And the faster time you mentioned? Still not for sharing? I’m sure you disagree with them not releasing that already. That’s what’s making this confusing.

I gotta admit a knock on JHM is their marketing stinks. I can’t even find the supercharger kit on their website. For APR, Arin makes a perfect wide-audience reaching marketing package. Not too F&F, focuses on the car guys and teases them appropriately with visual car porn. Not sure if he does the video productions too but photography and web presence alone he’s gotta be worth every penny APR is paying him. JHM should take a lesson. Find a level-headed young car guy coming out of a graphic design or similar program and groom him to do their marketing package.

#96

Jspazz your just being dense and fucking arguing about nothing. You truly don’t give a shit about the B7 RS4 so just go away. Your only here to piss Saki off and be a thorn.

JHM has great marketing…how about to wait until their kit is FUCKING RELEASED…maybe that is why it isn’t on the site…and why they haven’t released their times.

Shiny floors, pretty pictures and dyno charts don’t make cars fast or guarantee their product won’t destroy your car. R&D and dedication to a platform do…have you seen JHMs engine build program? How many people have built a BHF or BNS in the world? (That is ateast affordable to the average car enthusiast)

#97

Huh? It’s in like three threads here. Your ignorance of an event doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

[quote] And the faster time you mentioned? Still not for sharing? I’m sure you disagree with them not releasing that already. That’s what’s making this confusing.
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I would love to see it released. Maybe they’re going again and want to try some other things first.

Lol

Apr released what? They haven’t even told us the price yet!

I guess you missed the multiple jhm threads when they posted their runs.

Go home jspazz . You’re drunk.

#98

Which is exactly why people like myself run e85 since it is so widely available here. Chesney plans on doing the same. So sticking to that standard of judging the car based on the fuel they are running most of the time, we won’t be hearing any more “this car was on pump” or “this car was not on pump” or “this car has meth” seeing as they are always running daily on certain setups, correct?

#99

You’ll have to excuse me, it’s hard to keep up with who the boogeyman is on these forums on a weekly basis

#100

I still want to know what gas a car was running.

Sure, having THE fastest car is alright for bragging rights, no matter how hollow it could be.

But when I’m making a buying decision, I want to compare the times of the cars that are running in the setup that I will be running. That means ~93 with a full interior. I’m sure a good chunk of these companies’ customers are in the same boat, so it makes sense to put more emphasis on those times.

It’s nice to know what the car COULD do, but as a consumer I’m not getting that performance since I’m not running that particular gas all the time, or the tune that the car ran isn’t available for public purchase.