AMD B5 S4 TiAL 605.2 car goes 10.74 @ 135mph

B5 S4/ RS4
#81

Is this a seperate discussion point? I haven’t heard anyone say that pump+meth tune = race tune so not sure who you’re debating with.

[quote]Just bringing it up for conversation, not because I want it classified as a pump time. Like I said, it’s a huge asterisk, but its kinda like nitrous. It’s not “X” or “Y”, it is its own thing.
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It’s not an asterisk. It’s 93+meth. Simple.

If you review the list, for the last 2 years we have called cars tuned for meth what they are. 93+METH

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/aaaaaaaawww_zpse220defa.jpg

#82

I completely agree it shouldn’t be classified as pump. Hell the power gains alone make it crazy to compare side by side to pump, just as you’re point with E85.

I’m just saying that a true race gas tune probably has more to offer than pump+meth. And hell, there are some guys that run i as race + meth (dunno if they’re gaining anything, but they do), so then that’s a whole convoluted issue as well. So is it really fair to say it’s a straight race tune? Primetime is the only one who legitimately can talk about his race file, b/c he runs it each and every day which is awesome. I doubt he wants his race file times to be in the same category as a pump+meth.

Just bringing it up for conversation, not because I want it classified as a pump time. Like I said, it’s a huge asterisk, but its kinda like nitrous. It’s not “X” or “Y”, it is its own thing.

#83

Is this a seperate discussion point? I haven’t heard anyone say that pump+meth tune = race tune so not sure who you’re debating with.

[quote]Just bringing it up for conversation, not because I want it classified as a pump time. Like I said, it’s a huge asterisk, but its kinda like nitrous. It’s not “X” or “Y”, it is its own thing.
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It’s not an asterisk. It’s 93+meth. Simple.

If you review the list, for the last 2 years we have called cars tuned for meth what they are. 93+METH

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/aaaaaaaawww_zpse220defa.jpg

#84

It’s not an asterisk. It’s 93+meth. Simple.

If you review the list, for the last 2 years we have called cars tuned for meth what they are. 93+METH
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Okay. . . sorry. Ignore my rambling. Hooked on fonics didn’t work too good for me.

I thought you said it would be classified as a race time since “a car tuned for PUMP + METH. That’s effectively race gas parameters.”. That was my only question real question. Which now wasn’t even a valid question.

1/4 list is perfect. Just wish more forums had a searchable one like we have now.

#85

Hey maddog, this is when the discussion arose…

[quote]Saw Reid for 10.9 on pump at Ubly this weekend. Then 10.7 again on race gas.
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He wasn’t on straight pump, he was pump+meth, which is a huge advantage over just running 93, we all agree on that. The reason why they are probably saying “pump” is because as of right now JHMs RS4 time is the fastest “true” pump gas time for an Audi (correct me if I’m wrong because I know APR is doing nasty shit with the 4.0tt) and AMD is reaching for a claim to fame. Tweets car is like the only AMD B5 to go less than 12.0 probably!

#86

He wasn’t on straight pump, he was pump+meth, which is a huge advantage over just running 93, we all agree on that. The reason why they are probably saying “pump” is because as of right now JHMs RS4 time is the fastest “true” pump gas time for an Audi (correct me if I’m wrong because I know APR is doing nasty shit with the 4.0tt) and AMD is reaching for a claim to fame. Tweets car is like the only AMD B5 to go less than 12.0 probably!
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Methonal is an ingreadent in most Race gas. If add enough methonal to your fuel stream you have race gas. It would be like me saying… oh yea I have pump gas… when infact I have 2gal of actual pump gas and 2gal of taluine added to my tank doing that is also making a crude form of race gas.

At this point tweets has BS’ed so many times and got cought in so many lies he just blames AR for his issues and then blames JHM…what a basket case…

#87

It’s not an asterisk. It’s 93+meth. Simple.

If you review the list, for the last 2 years we have called cars tuned for meth what they are. 93+METH
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Okay. . . sorry. Ignore my rambling. Hooked on fonics didn’t work too good for me.

I thought you said it would be classified as a race time since “a car tuned for PUMP + METH. That’s effectively race gas parameters.”. That was my only question real question. Which now wasn’t even a valid question.

1/4 list is perfect. Just wish more forums had a searchable one like we have now.

#88

He wasn’t on straight pump, he was pump+meth, which is a huge advantage over just running 93, we all agree on that. The reason why they are probably saying “pump” is because as of right now JHMs RS4 time is the fastest “true” pump gas time for an Audi (correct me if I’m wrong because I know APR is doing nasty shit with the 4.0tt) and AMD is reaching for a claim to fame. Tweets car is like the only AMD B5 to go less than 12.0 probably!
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The TTRS in Europe went 10.9 on their 99 which is like our 93-94

#89

The TTRS in Europe went 10.9 on their 99 which is like our 93-94
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AHHHJDKDODI WE’RE ALL ANGRYYYY

#90

haha, hardly. I’m happy that your car finally runs…after fucking years! I guess with a nice checkbook you can let anyone learn on your cars…

#91

Hey maddog, this is when the discussion arose…

[quote]Saw Reid for 10.9 on pump at Ubly this weekend. Then 10.7 again on race gas.
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He wasn’t on straight pump, he was pump+meth, which is a huge advantage over just running 93, we all agree on that. The reason why they are probably saying “pump” is because as of right now JHMs RS4 time is the fastest “true” pump gas time for an Audi (correct me if I’m wrong because I know APR is doing nasty shit with the 4.0tt) and AMD is reaching for a claim to fame. Tweets car is like the only AMD B5 to go less than 12.0 probably!

#92

How much does a built 2.7tt motor + Tial turbos cost?

#93

$100K

I believe they had to go 3L to make it in the 10s though…

#94

Great quote…

#95

Euro…wrong

It costs two sets fo tial turbos…to replace the blown ones…3 motors…two or three years…you can drive it for a few weeks but then you have to sell it…all that and 100k

#96

He wasn’t on straight pump, he was pump+meth, which is a huge advantage over just running 93, we all agree on that. The reason why they are probably saying “pump” is because as of right now JHMs RS4 time is the fastest “true” pump gas time for an Audi (correct me if I’m wrong because I know APR is doing nasty shit with the 4.0tt) and AMD is reaching for a claim to fame. Tweets car is like the only AMD B5 to go less than 12.0 probably!
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Methonal is an ingreadent in most Race gas. If add enough methonal to your fuel stream you have race gas. It would be like me saying… oh yea I have pump gas… when infact I have 2gal of actual pump gas and 2gal of taluine added to my tank doing that is also making a crude form of race gas.

At this point tweets has BS’ed so many times and got cought in so many lies he just blames AR for his issues and then blames JHM…what a basket case…

#97

Motors are run by electricity and it was 1 engine and 1 set of turbos (sold the working old ones). And 25-28k with the car minus maintenance oil etc. Tell me again that I’m lying, hahaha or that I don’t know my own car. Ignorance is bliss I guess!

I LOVE that you guys have a need to trash talk something/one doing good things for the audi community. It shows your class and humility, also your educational background…(username ChrisK)

#98

Lol. I was actually serious. More of an analysis of which Audi platform gives you the best bang for buck… So I reckon 28k gets you the following on other platforms (including install):

  • Probably low 11’s, maybe high 10’s: C4 S4 with a built motor and your choice of big turbo. With that money it’d be a pretty clean C4 at that
  • Low 12’s/high 11’s: Cleanish B6 S4 + supercharger. More mod cons than the C4 S4 option but not as crazyyyy.
  • Proven low 12’s: 2000S4’s RS4 with JHM tune/exhaust (although I think he sold the exhaust). And you’re in an awesome handling RS4 with a suspension/rollbar/wide track setup
#99

Might not be a lie if your just not that smart

Lets start with what a motor is…

A motor is a machine that converts other forms of energy into mechanical energy and so imparts motion.

So wrong or lying or just you suck…

Its called general MOTORS
its called and outboard MOTOR
Its called MOTORtrend
Itw called ebay MOTORS

I guess they missed the post here from you about how everyone else is wr9ng…or an engine is just a type of motor…you don’t know your own car so I guess egnorence is bliss…

Also hate to break this to you but you haven’t done anything for the audi comunity…what over paid to run a 10…at first you wanted credit for being the fastest b5 s4…thats not ture…then you went for full interior fsstest b5…ur not that either…now its just vintage amd…ur the fastedt b5 s4 with a custom shift knob and floor mats…sure…someone might be able to over spend amd pay 28…I don’t think anyone here believes thats what you spent. … maybe it ws 28k after the secind motor blew up…

#100

He wasn’t on straight pump, he was pump+meth, which is a huge advantage over just running 93, we all agree on that. The reason why they are probably saying “pump” is because as of right now JHMs RS4 time is the fastest “true” pump gas time for an Audi (correct me if I’m wrong because I know APR is doing nasty shit with the 4.0tt) and AMD is reaching for a claim to fame. Tweets car is like the only AMD B5 to go less than 12.0 probably!
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The TTRS in Europe went 10.9 on their 99 which is like our 93-94