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yea, its like the first 1000 miles you arent supposed to drive it to hard. but my dealer told me to bring the revs up once in a while during that period otherwise you can have oil consumption problems down the road.
If that’s true all I can say is… Oops…
hmm… yea the last three s/rs cars ive had ive driven like i stolen from the dealer and all three have had serious quench for oil…
Not really sure. It sounds like something that gets passed around the forums. Can’t say I’ve read that in the manual, but I bought all of my Audis 2 years old thus am not the guy to ask.
My S4 and the RS5 doesn’t drink any oil. I brought it up to temperature (oil) and varied the revs and did a lot of engine braking. Though until it hit it’s oil temperature, I drove it grandma style lol shifting below 2k rpm (I still do actually).
There is some merit to the 335 owners opinion on launching the B8 S4 with MT. There is a chance of smoking the clutch if your clutch foot and throttle foot are not synchronized well.
Because of the additional traction that Quattro gives, this makes the task a little more difficult than a FWD or RWD car. For those who do not launch their S4/S5, the learning curve may actually end up killing the clutch.
I kindly have to disagree here, all you gotta do is dump the clutch and go wide open at the same time. You won’t mess anything up doing that repetitively. My girlfriend can launch my car
If this were the case there would be no aftermarket clutch market. Add a little bit more power and a little bit more torque and the factory clutch slips.
Once the clutch slips, it kinda goes downhill from there.
Never looked at an Audi manual, but a buddy just took delivery of a 2014 GTR and it had a strict regiment of XXX rpm up to 400 miles, then 600 mile, then 850 miles, then 1200 miles. Kinda interestesting. Also talked about partial throttle, quick shifts, etc at certain mileage points. I know BMW M models also give a bit of this info.
There’s some debate on the break-in process though which gets fairly technical and opinionated pretty quickly. It’d be interested to have the Count’s input on motor break in. I’ve heard a lot of race bikes like to take it to redline pretty early on to help seat the rings and shear off any sharp fragments which would slowly dull down otherwise. Either way it’s all way out of my technical league.
On the launching AWD debate, I’ve found that AWD is almost easier to launch than RWD. The only caveat is having enough power to break the tires loose. I felt like RWD is a much finer line of bogging or just spinning.
With AWD as long as you get a little chirping from the tires, the clutch will ginerally lock up and you can just stay in the gas. With RWD, if you start spinning the tires, they won’t really stop till you come out of the gas, which seems to slow you down even more than bogging. It also seems with AWD you can still make some decent launches with not the best tires. RWD and poor tires results in a no-go.
The bottom line I’ve found, with AWD it’s about timing the throttle full in with the release of the clutch as the RPM’s sweep upward. I.e. all you have to do is match the RPM point you want with the release of the clutch. With RWD, it’s more about finessing the throttle to a halfway point until everything is going and then laying into the throttle.
The R8s come with 50-60 miles from the factory and they beat the shit out of those cars.
Well time to hear from the other side. I’m just gonna post the same thing I posted on the other forum.
cult forum… is your BMW forum a cult forum as well…you can come and say what you want but now that you said it pull back the holstilty…we get it…
ok but…you said…
I said proper slipping of the clutch is the best way to launch AWD.
and thats still wrong. There is no proper slipping of the clutch on these cars as thats not how you lanuch them. You don’t ride or slip the clutch.
you sent me a text saying “bye bye clutch, transmission, quattro, and drivetrain”. i can show you the text next time i come home. ;D you also said that letting the clutch out slower is better than dumping it…
I know exactly what I said. I said that by dropping the clutch you are putting all of the stress on your drivetrain. You said oh no I don’t have to worry about that I drive an Audi not BMW, quattro is really strong. That is irrelevant. The fact is that dropping the clutch is going to put all the stress on the drivetrain on a AWD car. I further went on to say feel free to do whatever you want i’m just advising you because I know if you blow your drivetrain, your father is not going to be very happy. Look around at any forum for a performance AWD car or better yet ask our friend Ben who races cars. The best way to launch the car is to let the clutch out at a god pace. Not slip it until the clutch burns but not drop it either. If you get a good launch using that method you will have no burnt clutch and also no stress on drivetrain. Again Chris, stop putting words in my mouth.
I apologize for that but i’m in a pretty bad mood when I see people putting words in my mouth and talking shit behind my back. What I meant by that is that cfritos texted me saying “We have a better forum now. It’s private and you have to be accepted into it based on references.” That is why I said cult forum.
Now beyond that as I just posted I agree with you. You don’t want to slip the clutch you want to let it out in a smooth manner with the right timing. The main point here is that I don’t think the proper way to launch a AWD car is just revving then dropping the clutch. Do you agree or disagree?
Calling this forum a cult, that’s a bit strong isn’t it? That’s what the people who are not allowed to join usually say. Ever think the forum just likes to keep the douchebags out? I guess maybe you like douchebags and forums that allow douchebags to join better. Or maybe you’re worried that this forum might think YOU are a douchebag and aren’t letting you join, thus you lashed out and call it a cult for excluding you?
As for the topic at hand, I don’t know anyone who advocates slowly or gradually doing anything with a clutch on an AWD Audi. The best way I’ve seen these cars launched is around 3500 RPM (or thereabouts) and sidestepping it on the supercharged6 or V8 cars, and a bit higher RPM on the turbo cars, sweeping RPMs up and catching it on the upswing. I’ve only got a few hundred launches in my various AWD Audis, so maybe I’m not as well versed as you are. With your zero launches in your zero AWD Audis.
Here, get yourself up to speed. These guys have had pretty much every 1/4 mile S4/RS4 record over the last 10 years, and are considered the experts on launching these Audis. The first video pertains to the NA V8 cars, and the second video pertains to the turbo cars who need more RPMs to get into boost/torque…
Thank you saki…
You’re an idiot man, here’s what you said in texts/Facebook messages about launching and about me…
I’m going to go through each of your points and post your own contradiction right below.
- I never said only a DSG can launch
Previously you said: “Lol do you not know the difference between manual and automatic? They have launch control SMH”
- I never said my launch video was better than yours
Previously you said: “yea pretty shitty launch, bogged down” that was in response to my video do my car running an 11.8 with a 1.7 60’ spinning through first gear. You decided to send a video of you launching which was painful to watch since you bogged, and shifted your car like a diesel. Then you went ahead and used the usual BMW excuse and say you were in the most conservative map after I pointed out that your 0-60 time was similar/slower than stock.
- Never said you would kill Quattro, transmission or drivetrain launching by dropping the clutch. Just said it puts stress on it and I wouldn’t do it.
Previously you said: “byebye clutch, transmission and clutch, my son with AWD you can’t launch like that. You need to slip the clutch don’t just drop it.”
- Never said let the clutch out slowly until it bites, I said proper slipping of the clutch is the best way to launch AWD.
Previously you said: “I’ll show you that slipping the clutch is the most effective way to launch AWD since it doesn’t bog down” here you indeed did say slipping the clutch is the best way, in both instances you are 100% wrong.
- I did not talk shit. What you interpret as me talking shit is most likely me joking with Chris and him sending them to you which you intercept as serious.
Previously you said: “tell Pete that his car is slow as fuck and he can keep throwing money into it but its a luxury sedan that is built for passengers. It’s not a real driving car that is focused around a driver. Once stage 3 comes out tell him I hope he does it then we can run when I’m stage 3 and see how that winds up for him”
- I do not flaunt my Dyno numbers nor do I make claims on what I would run. I believe what you are referring to is Chris asking me what I would run and me taking a guess, if so I usually end that with saying “I have no idea until I actually do it though”
My response based on what you said: If you didn’t flaunt your Dyno numbers than why do you have them in your signature on Audizine? Also you referring my launch as “shitty” and refer to my car as slow as fuck multiple times. If my car is indeed slow as fuck than your rocket ship should easily blow my 11.8 out of the water, heck you should run faster than prime’s 11.6 also. Even though the fastest E90 All wheel drive is an 11.7…
- Never said I would destroy Pete in race from a dig.
Previously you said that dumping a clutch in an all wheel drive is ineffective, you also refer to my launch as shitty and try to respond by showing your launch is ‘correct’ and far superior, doesn’t that indeed mean you would beat me from a dig? Especially since you have so much more power than my slow as fuck S4.
- Never said Apexit1 wouldn’t run it with me. Only conversation we had at the Dyno day was asking me what I had done.
I was not there so I’m not going to comment about this, but Luis runs everyone and everything so I’m sure if runs came up he wouldn’t turn them down.
You guys need to race.
From a dig, to a spot about 1/4 mile away on a closed road (since the 18 year old kid peter smith is scared of the dragstrip)
The winner gets $50 from the other guy.
The loser has to put in his signature on all forums for 3 months that he got his ass whipped by an (Audi S4 or BMW 3 series) and link to a youtube video of the race.
Deal?