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[drob23]

Lol

[Skywagon]

It’s hard to believe that despite all of the helpful posts being made about trap speed/top end being shit…and about the 60-330 times being fine…he still focuses on the tires for 10 posts in a row.

I missed the part where he referenced the headers as a power maker. lulzeroo!

I just realized I wasn’t even a member of this forum until August. Headers installed in March. So all this alleged advice about headers I supposedly received here simply does not exist. That is a simple fact!

The simple fact is many of the same members you fight here were on the AZ boards when you were fighting them about the headers. Your argument is flawed.

I just went through all my posts on Audirevolution. Found one exchange with Primetime about headers, no fighting. you are wrong.

[Skywagon]

“Sir, are you running any mods on your car? Personally I found the APR Stage II, ECU and pulley, to be very effective! I have seen 15.9 PSI boost since their install. Thanks.”

I plan on a week from Friday, June 12. Been out of town too much. All the problems have been corrected and I still have 5 gallons of 102 octane ready to burn. The down side is the normal hot humid NC days are now upon us. I was advised that the CEL also added to my problems with the launch control failures. If interested my best time was 12.68. The lack of the ECU tune definitely hurt performance. Also, without the tune, I was getting only 375 HP at the wheels on the dyno, another disappointment. Got to get back to them too…soon! Thanks."

“How does an S4 make 375 HP at the wheels without a tune?”

“West, because it has numerous other modifications and I’d wager the APR pulley helped considerably!”

“West, actually you are wrong. First, the wheels are 20x9 and 20x10s. Second, I actually weighed them and they are 2 lbs heavier than stock, the bigger back ones. Third, it was confirmed my APR tune had been washed. Fourth, the Brembo brake rotors weigh less than stock. Fifth, I don’t believe a thing, nor does anyone else on this web site, except for 1/4 mile times which I hope to hell are in the 11’s next week!”

“If and when I run at a track again I’d put my stock 19s back on? To be honest I’m uncertain if they will clear the Brembo Brakes?”

“I actually put my mouth up to a stock BMW cat some time ago and blew as hard as I could.”

“There are simply too many variables in drag racing, operator technique,weather and the car it’s self, to really make an explanation for your times. Just keep going back and trying.”

“I’m running PSS on my S4, about 10,000 on them and look good.”

“Gents, please don’t forget this is a dreaded 2014 B8.5 with taller gears in the DSG. As I wrote, 4400 RPM using launch control and no real drop of RPM at brake release is, IMO, the key. Zero wheel spin. Of course 395’s in the back may be helping some there? Thanks.”

“The 2014’s have a problem with the APR tune, nothing more or less.”

“After APR refused to return my money I’ve lost all respect for them. The first time I did a 0-60 with a fully loaded car it did it in 4.17 seconds. Several months latter 4.47 seconds and an empty car. The 8.5s are some how dumbing down the APR tune?”

“Same dyno, same day. APR 328 HP, purged, REVO installed with DSG tune as well. 351 HP. 2014 S4.”

"Honestly, I think Audi is simply dumbing down the car, making it more difficult to tune. "

“It’s my car, my hood, my money. Rings are going nowhere. You all love to bash but most don’t have the balls to do a thing to your car! Heck, you probably bite your nails,…”

“I have APR Stage II. It doesn’t work. Best I’ve seen is 12.67”

“OK folks, here are the facts…I think? Car flashed in Jan. Car then goes in for Audi 5k regular service at Audi dealer. Went to Audi dealer just a couple of hours ago and talked to tech. He insists, and I believe him, all he did was the oil change and cleared out a couple of fault codes. He never hooked car to the Audi network. Then took car to dyno, 375 AW HP, 354 lbs torque. Then went to drag strip, 12.67 best time. Density alt. about 1200 ft. Cool night but low barometer. Unhappy, took it back to APR dealer. Here is where the confusion lies…probably my fault. I thought they said the APR tune had been washed. I guess I was wrong??? Car re flashed. Took it back to strip. 12.68 with a DA of 2000 ft. Car has been re flashed twice since. Hear is my problem/opinion. The 1/4 mile times are the times…period! However, after every flash the car seems to have tremendous torque which diminishes over several days. Just drove it today, low end torque OK but not what it’s like after a re-flash. Is it because it’s a B 8.5? I certainly don’t know. I can’t prove or disprove a thing. Thanks.”

“Folks, just to be clear…my car has APR Stage II, APR CPS, Roc Euro intake, Eurocode headers, Miltek resonated exhaust. I also ran 104 octane both times at the track. I was drag racing before you whippersnappers were born…I know how to do it. If it’s one thing I know about it’s DA. If you aren’t aware of it in an airplane you could kill yourself.”

“Arin, I know all about density altitude. The first time I ran the car was after the dealer did a 5k service and washed out your tune. DA 1200 ft. The second time I ran it, after a re-flash, the times were identical. DA 2000 ft. So you are telling me re-flashes are worthless?”

“Arin, whether the 8.5 DSG shift at a lower RPM, which they do, is irrelevant in my case. The times are identical for my car without the flash as with. My runs were done on the same track as well.”

“I ran 104 but since I have B8.5, 2014, I can’t select anything. I’ve been told that despite no select-ability it does make a difference, and I agree.”

“The best time I ever got after my Audi dealer washed my APR Stage II tune was 12.68, 107 mph. The best time I ever got after the car was re-flashed was 12.67, 107 mph. Both times running 104 octane, APR CPS, Roc Euro intake, Eurocode headers and Miltek resonated exhaust. I have a problem.”

“Half you folks jumping in here don’t have a clue what is really going on.”

“test”

Your point, again?

[Meistah]

Skywagon, stop mething around and you will see better 1/4 mile times.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/33909921.jpg

aaaaaaaahahahahahhahahahahahahaa. Saved that pic.

[shizzrock]

It’s hard to believe that despite all of the helpful posts being made about trap speed/top end being shit…and about the 60-330 times being fine…he still focuses on the tires for 10 posts in a row.

I missed the part where he referenced the headers as a power maker. lulzeroo!

I just realized I wasn’t even a member of this forum until August. Headers installed in March. So all this alleged advice about headers I supposedly received here simply does not exist. That is a simple fact!

The simple fact is many of the same members you fight here were on the AZ boards when you were fighting them about the headers. Your argument is flawed.

I just went through all my posts on Audirevolution. Found one exchange with Primetime about headers, no fighting. you are wrong.

I can’t help it if you can’t understand what I wrote. I will try again.

Many of the people here on Audirevolution are also on Audizine. You fought with them about the headers on Audizine. You have the same pattern every time you post. You are literally wrong about everything.

[shizzrock]

“Sir, are you running any mods on your car? Personally I found the APR Stage II, ECU and pulley, to be very effective! I have seen 15.9 PSI boost since their install. Thanks.”

I plan on a week from Friday, June 12. Been out of town too much. All the problems have been corrected and I still have 5 gallons of 102 octane ready to burn. The down side is the normal hot humid NC days are now upon us. I was advised that the CEL also added to my problems with the launch control failures. If interested my best time was 12.68. The lack of the ECU tune definitely hurt performance. Also, without the tune, I was getting only 375 HP at the wheels on the dyno, another disappointment. Got to get back to them too…soon! Thanks."

“How does an S4 make 375 HP at the wheels without a tune?”

“West, because it has numerous other modifications and I’d wager the APR pulley helped considerably!”

“West, actually you are wrong. First, the wheels are 20x9 and 20x10s. Second, I actually weighed them and they are 2 lbs heavier than stock, the bigger back ones. Third, it was confirmed my APR tune had been washed. Fourth, the Brembo brake rotors weigh less than stock. Fifth, I don’t believe a thing, nor does anyone else on this web site, except for 1/4 mile times which I hope to hell are in the 11’s next week!”

“If and when I run at a track again I’d put my stock 19s back on? To be honest I’m uncertain if they will clear the Brembo Brakes?”

“I actually put my mouth up to a stock BMW cat some time ago and blew as hard as I could.”

“There are simply too many variables in drag racing, operator technique,weather and the car it’s self, to really make an explanation for your times. Just keep going back and trying.”

“I’m running PSS on my S4, about 10,000 on them and look good.”

“Gents, please don’t forget this is a dreaded 2014 B8.5 with taller gears in the DSG. As I wrote, 4400 RPM using launch control and no real drop of RPM at brake release is, IMO, the key. Zero wheel spin. Of course 395’s in the back may be helping some there? Thanks.”

“The 2014’s have a problem with the APR tune, nothing more or less.”

“After APR refused to return my money I’ve lost all respect for them. The first time I did a 0-60 with a fully loaded car it did it in 4.17 seconds. Several months latter 4.47 seconds and an empty car. The 8.5s are some how dumbing down the APR tune?”

“Same dyno, same day. APR 328 HP, purged, REVO installed with DSG tune as well. 351 HP. 2014 S4.”

"Honestly, I think Audi is simply dumbing down the car, making it more difficult to tune. "

“It’s my car, my hood, my money. Rings are going nowhere. You all love to bash but most don’t have the balls to do a thing to your car! Heck, you probably bite your nails,…”

“I have APR Stage II. It doesn’t work. Best I’ve seen is 12.67”

“OK folks, here are the facts…I think? Car flashed in Jan. Car then goes in for Audi 5k regular service at Audi dealer. Went to Audi dealer just a couple of hours ago and talked to tech. He insists, and I believe him, all he did was the oil change and cleared out a couple of fault codes. He never hooked car to the Audi network. Then took car to dyno, 375 AW HP, 354 lbs torque. Then went to drag strip, 12.67 best time. Density alt. about 1200 ft. Cool night but low barometer. Unhappy, took it back to APR dealer. Here is where the confusion lies…probably my fault. I thought they said the APR tune had been washed. I guess I was wrong??? Car re flashed. Took it back to strip. 12.68 with a DA of 2000 ft. Car has been re flashed twice since. Hear is my problem/opinion. The 1/4 mile times are the times…period! However, after every flash the car seems to have tremendous torque which diminishes over several days. Just drove it today, low end torque OK but not what it’s like after a re-flash. Is it because it’s a B 8.5? I certainly don’t know. I can’t prove or disprove a thing. Thanks.”

“Folks, just to be clear…my car has APR Stage II, APR CPS, Roc Euro intake, Eurocode headers, Miltek resonated exhaust. I also ran 104 octane both times at the track. I was drag racing before you whippersnappers were born…I know how to do it. If it’s one thing I know about it’s DA. If you aren’t aware of it in an airplane you could kill yourself.”

“Arin, I know all about density altitude. The first time I ran the car was after the dealer did a 5k service and washed out your tune. DA 1200 ft. The second time I ran it, after a re-flash, the times were identical. DA 2000 ft. So you are telling me re-flashes are worthless?”

“Arin, whether the 8.5 DSG shift at a lower RPM, which they do, is irrelevant in my case. The times are identical for my car without the flash as with. My runs were done on the same track as well.”

“I ran 104 but since I have B8.5, 2014, I can’t select anything. I’ve been told that despite no select-ability it does make a difference, and I agree.”

“The best time I ever got after my Audi dealer washed my APR Stage II tune was 12.68, 107 mph. The best time I ever got after the car was re-flashed was 12.67, 107 mph. Both times running 104 octane, APR CPS, Roc Euro intake, Eurocode headers and Miltek resonated exhaust. I have a problem.”

“Half you folks jumping in here don’t have a clue what is really going on.”

“test”

Your point, again?

My point is that you are truculent for no reason and you talk out of your ass 100% of the time.

[shizzrock]

You are like some perverted capitalist version of Don Quixote

[Skywagon]

You are like some perverted capitalist version of Don Quixote

You created a lie, therfore you are a liar. You said I fought with folks on Audirevolution. Why the fabrication? Taking posts out of context from another web site and posting them here appears as some kind of bizarre vendetta. Taking the time to go over all my posts from Audizine is simply weird! Now I’m a pervert too? Maybe you or some of your peers have decided to make you the henchman of this site. Have fun, very very strange! Seek help…liar.

[shizzrock]

You are like some perverted capitalist version of Don Quixote

You created a lie, therfore you are a liar. You said I fought with folks on Audirevolution. Why the fabrication? Taking posts out of context from another web site and posting them here appears as some kind of bizarre vendetta. Taking the time to go over all my posts from Audizine is simply weird! Now I’m a pervert too? Maybe you or some of your peers have decided to make you the henchman of this site. Have fun, very very strange! Seek help…liar.

Lol I haven’t lied about anything. You are misinterpreting what I wrote:

“The simple fact is many of the same members you fight here were on the AZ boards when you were fighting them about the headers. Your argument is flawed.”

AZ stands for Audizine. You fought them on Audizine and you are fighting them here. They are the same people.

What I said is pretty accurate. I do admit I’m having a little too much fun. At first I said there is no talking sense into this guy. Then I thought if I literally just put what you wrote down you could see the source of people’s frustrations. Then you missed the point, and I just kept reading old posts because they made me laugh. but you must understand from my perspective. You are so hard to pin down because you change your stance to fit the argument, because truth isn’t your goal, winning the argument is.

[drob23]

It was funny for me too, especially “test”

[Skywagon]

You are like some perverted capitalist version of Don Quixote

You created a lie, therfore you are a liar. You said I fought with folks on Audirevolution. Why the fabrication? Taking posts out of context from another web site and posting them here appears as some kind of bizarre vendetta. Taking the time to go over all my posts from Audizine is simply weird! Now I’m a pervert too? Maybe you or some of your peers have decided to make you the henchman of this site. Have fun, very very strange! Seek help…liar.

Lol I haven’t lied about anything. You are misinterpreting what I wrote:

“The simple fact is many of the same members you fight here were on the AZ boards when you were fighting them about the headers. Your argument is flawed.”

AZ stands for Audizine. You fought them on Audizine and you are fighting them here. They are the same people.

What I said is pretty accurate. I do admit I’m having a little too much fun. At first I said there is no talking sense into this guy. Then I thought if I literally just put what you wrote down you could see the source of people’s frustrations. Then you missed the point, and I just kept reading old posts because they made me laugh. but you must understand from my perspective. You are so hard to pin down because you change your stance to fit the argument, because truth isn’t your goal, winning the argument is.

I apologize, you are correct. However, taking statements out of context and posting them is also a misrepresentation. You obviously feel opinions don’t matter, only your perception of the facts. Please post the threads you have partially quoted, show both sides of the conversation. Otherwise your posts are slanted and meaningless…dude. I guess you’re one of those CA guys. Of course I’ll never know because no one on this site ever reveals a single fact about themselves except give knowledge or grief. Merry Christmas.

[shizzrock]

You’re right, they are taken out of context. But that is also the beauty of it. I can look back at any random thread and find one of those quotes, because they are everywhere. I will not repost every thread, because then it wouldn’t be funny, it would be sad. I feel opinions matter less than facts, how about that? There is no perception of facts, there are only facts. They are absolute, or else they are not facts. You can’t have a perception of facts. My posts are of course slanted but are far from meaningless. You know where I live which is again ironic. But that is the really meaningless. You keep trying to attack someone’s credibility with all of these preconceptions you fabricated in your mind. “You must be one of those CA guys” or “you must be a psychiatrist” or “you must be a scum of the earth lawyer”. No one has to say “you must be a pilot” because you tell us every chance you get. Your whole system of logic is based on a belief structure instead of fact.

[euroswagr]

Skybag was amusing at first and I really wish we could have helped him, but he is a lost cause.

I think he should be given a long break…so he can either decide to wise up it fuck off!

[Skywagon]

You’re right, they are taken out of context. But that is also the beauty of it. I can look back at any random thread and find one of those quotes, because they are everywhere. I will not repost every thread, because then it wouldn’t be funny, it would be sad. I feel opinions matter less than facts, how about that? There is no perception of facts, there are only facts. They are absolute, or else they are not facts. You can’t have a perception of facts. My posts are of course slanted but are far from meaningless. You know where I live which is again ironic. But that is the really meaningless. You keep trying to attack someone’s credibility with all of these preconceptions you fabricated in your mind. “You must be one of those CA guys” or “you must be a psychiatrist” or “you must be a scum of the earth lawyer”. No one has to say “you must be a pilot” because you tell us every chance you get. Your whole system of logic is based on a belief structure instead of fact.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. However, your exaggerations, assumptions and accusations paint a very wide swath. I’m proud of my past. It appears many are not. So be it. You think it’s funny posting out of date meaningless past posts. You, seem to be very impressed with your ability to analyze me. You no nothing about me except it appears I’m currently your whipping boy. Let’s stick with cars?

[Skywagon]

Skybag was amusing at first and I really wish we could have helped him, but he is a lost cause.

I think he should be given a long break…so he can either decide to wise up it fuck off!

Shizzrock, here is one pissed off ex Marine. See if you can help him with his anger. If I recall properly, he saw duty in the middle east, Afghanistan? I think he is suffering from PTSD. I love the Marines, most are not bullies or delusional. I’ve served with many.

[drob23]

Saw this on jalopnik, pretty hilarious

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/giwieebrshfux1vttusd.jpg

Gotta love the last one ;D

[d.p]

The first excuse applies directly to us 6MT guys!

The rest apply all to sky.

[sakimano]

we’ve posted that a few times on here. Generally for the stage 3 B5 S4 guys who claim to make 500, 600 whp and then run 12.8 or worse

[westwest888]

we’ve posted that a few times on here. Generally for the stage 3 B5 S4 guys who claim to make 500, 600 whp and then run 12.8 or worse

Sometimes the B5 S4 guys get sold a bag of goods. I actually feel worse for the M4 guys that think they make 450 HP at the wheels because bimmerfest told them so, and then they pull the trigger on an $86,000 car. Put any M4 off the lot on a Mustang dyno and it does this:

http://i61.tinypic.com/2a9qydd.jpg

[13S4]

we’ve posted that a few times on here. Generally for the stage 3 B5 S4 guys who claim to make 500, 600 whp and then run 12.8 or worse

Sometimes the B5 S4 guys get sold a bag of goods. I actually feel worse for the M4 guys that think they make 450 HP at the wheels because bimmerfest told them so, and then they pull the trigger on an $86,000 car. Put any M4 off the lot on a Mustang dyno and it does this:

I don’t feel bad for them. As soon as I saw the new M4 I fell out of love with my S4.

Stock:
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1045229

Tuned:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkSVnJuEpBg