Oh my lord you are stubborn. If my wheels didn’t spin in those conditions I’d be disappointed. A little wheel spin is advantageous, and your 60 foot times prove you don’t have a lot. You are not going to get a 1.5 60’ time if your wheels stick on launch, because it is outside the statistical data. You should look at the variables that matter, specifically the ones you have that others with faster times don’t. Those would be oversized tires, headers, meth, hole in hood, etc. But instead you focus on something irrelevant using a false equivocation by saying if there were less wheel spin you’d have a faster E.T. Physics and logic elude you.
Yes Skywagon you are COMPLETELY correct you are losing 4 tenths off your ET because of traction.
You are the biggest bafoon I’ve seen on AR and that is saying a lot.
Shoot, I’m still waiting for proof headers don’t work!
Are you a physicist?
Primetime telling you they aren’t helping you because he’s the only person that has gone to the track and tested them on a similarly modded car, only difference being the headers themselves, and have found them to not help should be more than enough proof.
I don’t think anybody is disputing the fact that they help over stock. Who cares though, your car isn’t by any means stock if you remove the headers. You are also right that race cars in fact use headers because they flow better. But just because they’re expensive headers, doesn’t mean they’re helping. There is more engineering that goes into headers than I will ever know and I’m assuming you’re in the same boat. I think it was Justin that compared the two pictures of the headers vs. the stock exhaust with the detailed explanations of what’s happening. He made some extremely great points about why these headers aren’t performing as well as they should.
I mean common Sky, we’re all trying to help. I know you’re getting a hard time from people because of your stubbornness, but something’s got give eventually. I am by no means an expert, but there are plenty of experts here that are trying to support you in achieving your goals for your car despite you telling them they’re wrong.
I know you’re an expert on something. How may times would it take somebody asking you for help with something you’re an expert at while at the same time telling you you’re wrong before you got frustrated and just gave up?
Thanks. So, Primetime changed out headers in the middle of the day and ran the same car on the same track? I sure didn’t see that but the thread is 17 pages long.
No, the Imola guy or whoever went the same day, same car, same mods except for the headers, and also 200+ lbs lighter than Primetime. But Primetime still had the best time.
Is that what it’d take for you to believe though? Run the car with the headers and then replace them with the downpipes and high flow cats and run again on the same day same track?
That’s never going to happen. I’m not sure why you’d need it to be the same exact car either.
No but you are a sophist
Ironically you are the proof
Simple… Because if it will never happen he will never allow himself to be educated.
Truth is he is fighting the embarrassment that he wasted $4000 dollars.
It’s extra embarrassing because when he asked about them, smart people told him not to buy them…but he did anyway and acted like a stubborn asshole telling people they were just haters. He ignored all opinion and data that was counter to his intentions, and instead he listened to a buddy who used to drag race who said ‘headers should help’. The buddy didn’t know anything about the stock exhaust mani…did not know anything about the ecode paperweights. But hey, he used to drag race.
Nevermind that 5 guys who CURRENTLY drag race…and currently drag race the b8 s4 have tested and refuted the efficacy of these pieces of junk.
Basically the standard skydummy.
Can we ban this guy? He is useless , is clueless, learns NOTHING, is toxic, screams racism every time he’s shown to be a twat, and adds nothing. On top of this he shits on the site where ever he can.
GTFO
Don’t be so “ageist”, Saki… 
LOL!
I agree he is acting hard headed and isn’t taking the criticism or jabs very well at all, but regardless, he is providing us with some good data. This should help people in the future avoid some of the things he’s doing. He’s probably thrown more money at making his car faster than most of the B8/8.5 guys and he’s still almost a half second short of the record.
$2,431.99 - Headers
$1,299 - APR
$936.75($1249 before?) - Revo stage 1+
$1,000(+/-) - Meth kit plus install is my guess
That’s $5,667.74 plus whatever it cost to install the headers that could have been saved, which is a conservative estimate considering a lot of the prices have come down recently. I put the meth kit in the list too because the experts are saying it’s doing you nothing, and probably actually hurting you, when you’re using it with race gas.
That’s probably over $7,000 that could have been spent on the GIAC tune, high flow cats, and probably a vacation.
Saki, you are full of it. What’s your S4 turn the quarter in? Shit on the site?..you’re bizarre. Rascism, toxic? Grow up. Stop thinking you are a God of the internet…you are truly one delusional troller. You are spending too much time staring at your precious stars and meaningless rating. Ban me…OMG! Keep giving me grief and name calling and I’ll keep giving it back…all so simple. Next thing I know you all will be suggesting I go APR.
You don’t have a clue what your writing about. I’m the OP, if you don’t like what I write don’t open the thread children.
You are so witty. What’s your S4 turn in the quarter?
Please enlighten me and tell me how it is then since you’re the OP. I’ve taken it on as a personal challenge to change your attitude around with unrelenting patience and kindness as you again are providing us with some data. However, I’m about to give up as you are too stubborn to take advice which makes no sense considering you’re asking for help on a car forum. I don’t think I will ever understand your hostility and reluctance to listen to experts.
Fuck him, he needs to just go to somewhere other than AR.
Skywagon, you are the one without a clue to ANYTHING.
Funny how these threads repeat about every month.
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It seems like you went to wit school but only mad it halfway through. Once again your sophistry is making your brain short circuit. You ask about my quarter mile time like that matters, but it shows your ultra competitiveness. Maybe that’s why you can’t listen to anyone’s suggestions, you’re so paranoid everyone’s out to get you that you think they are offering you bad advice to make your car slower. Because the fastest 1/4 mile time will finally prove you are a winner, and you are better than all of these assholes. You will throw it in their faces and laugh, because you are the only one who understands. ha ha ha ha ha (evil laugh)
Have you ever heard of anyone having low low trap speeds at coastal?
To me this is the funniest part. Trap speeds are hard to fuck up. They reflect the HP Your car is making. Yet somehow skywhiner is short about 5 mph. Does he care? Nope. Hasn’t even noticed it seems. Still talking about his tires.
It is shocking he flew a ‘plain’ successfully. IE without slamming into the ground after an argument with an altimeter he was busy ignoring because someone else he asked he asked ‘knew better’ .