Does JHM Still Technically Hold the B5 S4 Record 1/4 Mile Time?

Oh Saki, please do bestow some of your transcendent 1/4 mile knowledge and eloquence, as I am but a neophyte and ignorant by comparison. :-X (Holy condescending elitist garbage).

[quote=“sakimano,post:177,topic:3978”]
Nope, Hunter didn’t make excuses, YOU made ‘excuses’. (“It was hot out” “high humidity” “high DA” “he bogged” “his tires were too wide”) Here is the link to your post explaining your ‘excuses’, since you like to selectively remember things http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=1079.msg25676#msg25676.

If that were to have been a Tial car that you were reporting on with the same performance, I have just a small feeling that your attitude and skewing might have been a little bit to the other direction, along with you calling those exact same descriptors out as ‘excuses’, instead of holding them as a simple valid explanation of the circumstances, and you would have acted like that one outing shows the limit of that setup, rather than being all ‘I’m sure that he’ll do better next time’.

[Just so we’re clear, I do indeed think those 'excuses" are valid descriptors of the track outing for Hunter, and I think that those same descriptors would be valid for any car equally. I don’t call them ‘excuses’ like you do with every car that is not a JHM car.]

Hunter was not on straight pump gas. He may have been on a pump file, but I have yet to see an Audi file to date (even pump file) that didn’t benefit from a greater octane fuel. People usually qualify their run by what gas their running, not which ‘file’; sound like just another thing to add so that someone can have their own record (which won’t likely ever be broken because you’ll likely never see anyone else qualify what the tune’s inteded gas was in their modlist.)

Other than being on a ‘pump file’, you’re still comparing a K04 car to a souped up RS6 hybrid car. You’re comparing an RS6+ car that was custom tuned tuned within the last year by one of the best in the B5 industry to an APR tuned K04 car from 2006. Mark’s avant weighed 3640lbs; have Hunter go weigh his avant the same way it is when he is at the track, and I bet he’s not much over 3700lbs, if at all. You, with your prestigious 1/4 mile knowledge, should know how negligible that weight difference is compared to the other factors.

So yeah, even though the comparison is retarded in the first place, as they are cars with completely different turbos, you seem to give a free pass to Hunter’s car when he barely tied a K04 avant’s record from over a half-decade ago, yet all other cars that run high 11’s are a joke to you because they have “bigger turbos than K04’s and still can’t get near JHM’s [11.2] K04, stock block, full interior record”. You don’t have to be bashful about it, we all know you gave Hunter’s JHM RS6-r car a free pass comparatively to other cars.

[quote=“Zero_Tolerance,post:176,topic:3978”]
You’ve been around the B5 scene and around these clowns long enough to see their undeniable bias. If you honestly can’t see that by now, I’m not sure you’re salvageable.

And make no mistake, I’m under no delusions that the locker-room crew will ever straighten out their bias; I’m just typing because I’m in front of a keyboard and in front of a computer tonight. I know this isn’t constructive for anyone, except maybe the far chance of some AR newbie stumbling onto this thread first and seeing their bias in one day, instead of taking longer. It might help random newbie lol.

Persisting with the blatant lie that my car is not running eh? Like I said, keep it up, it helps your credibility.

PS, I like the shorter posts, you seem to put a little more effort into being coherent when they’re just a few sentences.

Oh you mean Hunter who destroyed his entire drivetrain , rear-end, etc to achieve that time, with many many times down the track? Running C16.

If any of the 605/770 folks were willing to literally destroy their fancy builds I am sure better results can be achieved. But coming from people who don’t even have a build to speak of, besides a few bolt on parts, lends zero credibility.

I know 770 cars require FLAT SHIFTING to really maintain maximum momentum down the track. Running big turbo cars down a track is a whole different ballgame.

You try really really hard to make a point that is not worth making.

[quote=“Killer00S4,post:184,topic:3978”]

If you don’t have have a problem and can remember; what trans did you have in your car and what gears did you have, if other than stock?

What was your redline? And from 1st through 5th, where did your rpms drop down too after you shifted into the next gear? Thanks

[quote]Sakimoto posted: He was terrified to go back and fall on his face again
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So now you are psychologist that is in my head?

I know you are KING MONKEY around AR; and I get all the AMD B5 hate that comes out in your posts. But your taking this way to serious, and it makes your posts look like your just a mad internet kid.

My car developed a crack in the block, and that was the end of my season. Well see what happens this summer. But thanks for letting me know I was scared to go run awesome pump gas traps.

Since you seem to know all the facts, one fact you should know is I did not launch my car.

I think your asking me a question…

I will answer in order;

  1. Stock trans, 4 years old
  2. Redline was 8k RPM
  3. 1st through 4th, I dropped to almost ZERO RPMS between shifts.

I really don’t even remember where I was shifting, I hit rev limit a lot, and was unable to get into several gears on my 3 ever runs down a track. It was a complete mess. The fact that I hit 128 traps was a miracle from my perspective.

Learned a lot, I have rebuilt my trans, still completely STOCK gearing. And the car is definitely setup better for the next go around.

Thanks for the little info I inquired about. You seem very sincere while explaining your difficulties at the track. The 3 times my car went to the track, my tack was broke and it stayed on zero. I just put it on the track just so that people would see that my single was running and driving. I got plenty flack because my car didn’t perform as well as the people that didn’t have anything to do with my car wanted it to perform. I never let it bother me because I don’t care about others opinions, unless they are directly connected to my project.

I get the feeling that you really want to be a viable contributor to this for, but are going about it the wrong way. Don’t let people make you defend your car for not performing to their liking, when you know damn well that you don’t have anything to prove to anyone but yourself.

I feel for you, your car and your mishaps at the track. My tack is working now and I will try to do better my next attempt and I know you will improve on what matters the most to you.

At least you took it to the track, unlike JibberJACKass, who would rather sell his @ass on the hoe stroll, rather than be a man and put his flop to the test.

I have to shovel snow!

For killer and jibber let me help you again

  1. Hunter was on a pump file (a 91 file) . I don’t know why you tuning wizards don’t understand the difference. A race file or a pump+meth file are dramatically different. Also note that I said it about five times… He was on a pump file.

  2. Hunter was not on straight c16. He was on pump gas when he went (93), and after making so many passes (private track rental) He was running out. Guess what… Ubly dragway doesn’t have a shell station with 93 on site. The only fuel you can get at the strip is race gas. So be added some in. It didn’t help if you look at his other slips. I said five times above he was on a pump file. Tuned for bump. Pump parameters. Pump timing. Pump safety. I didn’t say he had a tank full of 93. I thought he was straight 93 until I actually talked to him about it after, and corrected myself going forward.

Again…he was running a pump file and C16 wouldn’t help him much on a pump file unless it was a million degrees out (it wasnt).

Jibberjive since you can’t get this through your head, go post a thread on your favourite self tuning site. Ask the beiiiinefficientficientficientficientits of running a race+93 mix on a car tuned for 91 when the weather is near freezing.

As for him destroying his entire driveline to achieve the time … That’s funny. Look at the timeslips. This is not a 1.6 second 60 foot time and it is not someone who shifts like Jason from JHM. The numbers tel the story of someone who just ripped through the gears like any of us would when we are racing. A 1.83 60’time is worse than just about every car in the 11s on our quarter mile database across all platforms. So is his 5.1 330’ time. After two gears that’s only a tenth from my best 330 time in my bone stock rs4… Which is a high twelve second car.

If he had been slamming gears and throwing caution to the wind it would be evident in the et. As we have all said the et is good but not great. The trap speed is excellent for someone on a pump file on stock motor. I think you two guys are too emotionally bent on convincing me that amd and EPL are great and that I am not seeing the whole picture due to wearing rose colored glasses for jhm.

Reality is that everyone who looked at a pump gas file on a stock block producing 124-127 mph trap speeds was impressed by his results. The only people trying to be unimpressed have an agenda and are not operating with all the facts.

I would love to hear count vohn talk about the ‘custom’ tune he gave hunter. Sure custom… Custom to back the car off enough to keep it safe!

Good for Hunter, tell him to borrow a Pbox next time, with those traps, he MIGHT be pleasantly surprised by his times.

Race gas can help on a pump file. But I really don’t care to argue about what Hunter did or didn’t.

I did hear he has some repair work to do, but, again you know how these things go.

Your funny, but really in love with your truck. I really like those Ford Ecoboost engines. I like your truck dude. It’s awesome!

Did you debadge your truck? It should have an ecoboost emblem, and FX4 stickers?

Also your comment about getting your bran new truck into the 12’s is probably unrealistic, I doubt your going to push it that hard on a 45k bran new truck.

Now that’s what I am talking about, motivation! Please by all means, beat my time! BTW: When do you expect to do it?

I have always shared my build since day one. When I started doing FATS, 60-130, etc. I created a post about 3L Performance on AZ, people came in and shit on it, telling me it was fake. I was posting what I was experiencing. People couldn’t handle it, thread ended up getting shut down by me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/burningcoals/202fatssearcy.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/burningcoals/March4Street_21801_image026.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/burningcoals/March4Street_21801_image024.gif

My build thread had to be purged countless times, and monitored by AZ admins to negative posts.

All this just to SHARE info. I owned other cars, EVO X community was great, shared everything, even tuning.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/burningcoals/IMG_1853_zps95cf7f18.jpg

Audi communities in general are just not friendly. Everyone is trying to make a buck off everyone else, no one shares shit.

Hunter bought a shitbox basically. It had ‘new’ k04 turbos and was supposedly built by a great shop (stage three). Once count vohn and just incredible started helping hunter take it apart it became clear the previous shop hadn’t a clue what they were doing.

It had a Scott at advanced rebuild, which was toast in about six thousand miles. A shame.

Anyway he now has a jhm rebuilt 01E s4 trans now. I was there in Detroit when they installed it for him. Jhm also found part of his linkage was missing oddly. Was giving him problems when shifting. Not drastic but enough to be annoying. We were going to take the car to the strip the next day but Corbetts car and another car had problems that took all night. This was in like November, and Milan was closing the next day unfortunately.

Come spring it should be fun. He also has a pbox and would happily do a 60-130 run. I reckon it would be in the 8 second range. His tune holds the car back quite a bit so that boost doesn’t hit like a ton of bricks, so not sure what would be the best way to do a 60-130. Maybe just start in third.
When you start(ed) in fourth at 60 mph you are at what… 3700rpm or something? Are you waiting for boost there with 770s? Or just barely in?

GET OFF JASONS DICK! Hunter is the second best 6 speed driver i know besides my self ;D He shifts like a fucking animal. FUCK JASON’s Shifting Hunter is a better driver period!!! Hunter is sick at driving Now on a bike there is no one on any audi forum that is better then hunter period!

As soon as there is no salt on the roads.

Thanks man, I don’t really have an issue with you, I just want to see your car run good in the 1/4…Jibberjive on the other hand I can’t stand. I removed the ugly ass eco-boost badge and added the 3.5l twin turbo badges for an OEM (wish it came from the factory like that) look.

I do have the FX4 stickers removed in the pictures and I replaced them with these ones that I just designed and made…

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/92800314/Photo%20Feb%2009%2C%202%2058%2003%20PM.jpg

Lastly, I can understand if you don’t know much about the ecoboost F150s, but it’s actually a pretty easy and more than a realistic goal to have my truck in the 12s with a tune, catless downpipes, and a thermostat (yes a thermostat) Check out Livernois tuning (check out the video), they have a 4door 4WD ecoboost running 12s and it’s a supercrew just like mine. It also ran at a drag strip at about 90 feet elevation. I know it’s not a huge difference, but the strip 10 minutes from me is 15ft elevation and if I can run a cool night…well lets just say their will be some surprised people in the stands. DA was -1000ft today and will be close to the same tomorrow so maybe I’ll mosey on out to T&T and try to set a stock record.

I actually only paid $38k for my truck, but sticker was $51,800. I’m not going to track it every weekend, but honestly a few runs isn’t going to scare me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5ORH385hh8&feature=player_embedded

Here is the slip so we can analyze it…

http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg324/LivernoisMotorsports/1287slip.jpg

[quote=“sakimano,post:190,topic:3978”]
I thought you said ‘pump gas’, and I re-read it and you do only say ‘pump file’. I’ve edited my post above. Glad to hear you’re not still saying pump gas.

[quote=“euroswagr,post:198,topic:3978”]
:-*

Holy shit euro that truck had a 1.7 60’ time???

I don’t get that… Can someone explain how a truck that traps 103 and weighs 1200 lbs more than my car can smoke the shit out of me to 60’ and even 330 feet?