Fair enough, its only if you want to see where you are at, versus other 770 cars, or you want to improve your times or power. It’s a tuning tool. And works well for what it was intended for.
If that is the case, then I apologize for that one statement and for lumping you in with the other guys with slower cars calling the faster car “slow”. When I see one of the 4 or 5 people that could interchangably post with the other 4 or 5 (because their posts/demeanor are so similar), I tend to lump them together. I’ll try to pay better attention to when you guys actually have dissenting opinions from each other from now on.
[quote=“euroswagr,post:157,topic:3978”]
Oh the irony! Not that I don’t wholeheartedly agree with what you’re saying and the logic (it’s true, I’m just another internet dude from the forums, whom you’ll never meet in real life, and in reality, you have no reason to care enough about my opinion to go out of your way to satisfy me). It’s not that what you’re saying isn’t true, it’s your absolute lack of empathy (the ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes and see something from someone else’s perspective). The EXACT same sentiment that you have regarding not caring about my opinion and regarding not caring about the 60-130 test is equally as justified and applicable to someone on the other side of the coin (someone who might not care about your and AR’s opinion, and who doesn’t care in the slightest about the 1/4 mile or proving themselves/their car to random strangers on an internet forum). It’s a two-way street, and you don’t hold a monopoly on those valid sentiments. But it sure is ironic when you act like you act like you’re right and they’re wrong.
I don’t hold the same anti-1/4 mile sentiment as some (I will get to the 1/4 mile when I feel like it and when I feel like my car is up to it), but I do share your “I couldn’t care less about random forum-user’s opinions of my car” sentiment.
And I’ll hold you to you word on the 60-130 test 
Like I said, I do plan on hitting the strip sometime, and when I do, I would love to see your 60-130 times (which would likely mean that you will have done a 60-130 test before me, as I have never done one, nor do I own a P-box). I have a strong inkling that you won’t break into the 9’s (just like you are/were struggling to break into the 12’s in the 1/4 mile with your Audi).
I kinda like the idea of 60-130 times after beating V10 M5s in the 1/4 mile but losing to them beyond that. I also think street races are better linked to good 60-130 times. At the same time, 1/4 mile races are the standard so I think it’s a stat that should never be overlooked.
I’m guessing turbos like RS6-Rs are going to achieve better 1/4 mile times than Tial 770s and Tial 770s are going to achieve better 60-130 times than RS6-Rs.
[quote=“jibberjive,post:153,topic:3978”]
Hey shit for brains… Show me where anyone said his car is slow?
That’s what’s so funny… You have no leg to stand on with your lame ass argument, so you make up that we called his car slow and use it as an excuse to make fun of our cars and call them slow. It’s classic.
Jibberjive your car is a high school half assed half finished b.s. can’t afford to do it right build. It’s a joke. Stop acting like a big shot. Maybe I should sell my winter wheels and use the money to buy your car…because that’s what it’s worth. Then I will finally finish the pathetic two year old stage 3 minus high school self tuned joke build and show it a dragstrip since it will never see one while you own it. Poor b5…being abused and embarrassed.
You act like we’re all missing out on this great b5 life. Don’t you get it? Just about anyone can afford a b5… But millions of people can’t be bothered. Why don’t you get that? Euroswagr b7 is worth three stage 3 B5 s4s. His pickup truck is probably worth five. We just don’t want one! We know we’re slower than a stage three b5s our cars sit but we also know that we just don’t give a fuck.
If killer s4wants to brag about his car being 60-130 that’s his right… It is insanely fast. However when he tested t at the strip he showed us that his tuner is having a laugh and that his car is really not all that fast where it matters… Where we all drive our cars… Below 100 mph.
Why don’t you guys get that?
[quote=“sakimano,post:164,topic:3978”]
I can’t believe that you are letting jibba get under your skin. Saki, I’ve been trying to tell people since the beginning of time that Hobbs and gugu were building flops. I was a full fledged psychic who could tell only the future of those two Markku built manifold built projects. 3+ years later both builds are shit and shittier.
I believe that jibbs have now moved on to Eventing new product for the b5 platform; a new intake manifold that will make s4’s run 10’s and a unreleased, but future prototype of a new Turbo setup that will yield over phw0001 to be released as soon as he can finish sucking on his own pianist.
Jibberjive, every time I read your non sense it gives me a fucking headache. Look at the list from above that Killer posted…
9.1 - Porsche 993 RUF Turbo R (100 octane)
9.4 - Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0
9.5 - Porsche 997TT
9.6 - Ferrari F50
*9.9 - Lamborghini Gallardo, stock, 2006, 6-MT, 2-shifts
Do you really think I am so in love with my B7 S4 that I am blind…I know 100% it is not on par with these 9 second cars…or even close, I’d be lucky to run a time similar to a stock RS4.
You love to bring up my squeaking into the 12s, but if we look at the reality of that time…well it’s one of the fastest NA B6/B7 times out there…if we want to stretch…it’s the fastest NA B7 S4.
I just wish a fast car was a fast car in the B5 world…fast on the street, 1/4 mile and 60-130. No one around here only races 60-130…sure there are a few roll races, but there will always be runs from a dig…and ultimately everything is settled by meeting at the track. No one is holding the stopwatch in their hands and the tree controls the start…not some ones horn or hand drop.
I’m wasting my time here…enjoy your fast B5s…or truthfully lack there of
Here is your turbo envy…my 6,000lb truck will be in the 12s before jibberjive’s lawn ornament
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/92800314/Photo%20Feb%2008%2C%202%2053%2059%20PM.jpg
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I will beat your time and will wager a bet on it!
Earlier today, post #132 (quoted below), is ChrisK not part of the locker room crew anymore?
And are you delusional about my build and B5’s in general? I have never claimed to be a big shot. I do, however, know what my build cost me and what a similar build would cost to replicate it, and it’s no where near what a set of your wheels would cost, no matter what they are, and my car would likely sell for more than euro’s B7, let alone at 1/2 or 1/3 of the price (your hyperbole isn’t even funny). Also, it’s obvious that you and people with cars that cost more than B5’s could have chosen a B5, but didn’t out of preference. I’ve never said anything about ‘B5 envy’, rather it’s about people explicitly calling cars faster than theirs ‘slow’. I don’t care what your bank roll is.
And lol at ‘highschool build’ and cut corners. How old do you think I am? [Here, I gave you this on a platter to comment ‘Well with how you post, I assumed you’re 18!’ or post some pictures of my baby-face that you probably harvested from my photobucket or facebook and have been saving for the right time to post. That’s how you operate, right, internet detective people’s personal info and post it on the forums in an effort to try to look ‘cooler-than’ to your internet locker room frat buddies?] As for the quality of my build and parts, my build is out there for anyone with an internet connection to see and make a judgement on. If you think that is garbage then I’d love to see what you do with your dead stock car, if you ever decide to mod it ‘Titanium headers and diamond muffler bearings, welded by Zues himself’
[quote=“euroswagr,post:166,topic:3978”]
Good job 1/4 king and critic [pat on the bum], way to be one of the fastest of a group of cars that apparently struggle to break into the 12’s.
Who is Zues? the mythical God of the 60-130 realm?
I like how you try and brush us off as a hate group. We bring up real questions that people dance around or get defensive over. Why shouldn’t a “fast” car be fast on the drag strip and from 60-130, is one really better than the other? Also, like Saki has said a million times…Why have a car that is a beast at speeds that no one drives besides lunatics? Most people rarely go 100mph…if you get your ass whooped by a domestic at a street light until he shuts down at 80mph…what do you do, pull up and say “I would have had you if we woulda went to 130” You probably will and then he will laugh in your fucking face and you’ll probably give him a nice ricer flyby while he shakes his head wondering who says that.
Who in their right mind builds a fucking AWD car for epic 60-130 times?? There is nothing better than an AWD launch and if you disagree…well then why not build a sick CRX.
Built… nasty stage 3 self-tuned POS struggle to get into the 12s, and that is when they have the balls to run at a drag strip instead of hiding behind dyno numbers and 60-130 times so I’m not even going to argue with you about the V8 S4s. Like I said, my 6000lb truck will run 12s before your car jibberjive.
Oh, and I loved this one. Not that fast “where it matters” (with “where it matters” as defined by Saki of course). Apparently it was plenty fast “where it mattered” to Killer00S4, as he seems very pleased with how it drove and performed daily. But no, I forget that here we are on strict Saki standard, and our builds have to live up to his preferences, not ours.
And again, lol at not being fast sub 100mph. Last time I checked, you can sweep through 4000-8000RPM in every single gear, not just 4th.
I’m still on a stock motor top to bottom so a comparison between other 770’s wouldn’t be so good. When the 2.8 is complete then I would consider some timed 60-130 runs. I see the value for both the 1/4 mile and 60-130 test.
[quote=“euroswagr,post:170,topic:3978”]
I’ve never said a fast car shouldn’t be fast in both the 1/4 mile and 60-130. I agree. Maybe you don’t know the details, but Killer00S4, who has very little experience with the track (let alone with a finicky high-power AWD Audi that generally requires excellent or experienced drivers to get good times at the 1/4), went to the track for a single outing. His E/T wasn’t the best, his trap was respectable, but still not up to the cars potential. Also, he wasn’t driving the car when it made the record 60-130 passes (AFAIK, I could be wrong, as I don’t affiliate with the AMD crew), so that could also aid to the discrepancy there.
I love the blatant favoritism that happens though when it’s the locker room’s favorite tuner’s car. You’ll probably try to discount the above paragraph that is expressing those real conditions surrounding his singular outing at the track as just ‘excuses’; yet when it’s a CV/JHM tuned car (Hunter’s) that goes to the track and has a less-than-expected outing, all of the sudden the ‘it was late at night’, ‘it was his first time to the track in that car’ and ‘he was in his dress shoes from work’ are all of the sudden really valid circumstances describing those less-than-stellar passes (and, of course, those aren’t ‘excuses’ of running an underperforming time, what with the car running JHM’s turbos and JHM’s tune).
When someone with self-tuned Tial 605’s runs an 11.9, it’s a completely crap time because it didn’t beat the ‘low 11sec K04 records set by JHM years ago’, but when someone with turbos comparable to the Tial 605’s (or at least comparably sized and supposedly much better (RS6-r’s), with an undeniably much better tuner [CV]) runs an 11.7x at his next outing, it’s ‘great results’, pat on the back, and super stellar, even though he barely ties the fastest stock block avant K04 time from over 6+ years earlier (nevermind that it didn’t get anywhere near JHM’s stock block K04 time either from years ago; it was ‘awesome’ because it was on a ‘conservative tune’ and under whatever other conditions [which are, of course, valid descriptions here, and not ‘excuses’ like they would be if anyone else had said that about their own non-JHM car when describing their own conditions of their own pass).
Do I think that Hunter’s car’s performance potential is limited by what he was able to do those few outings? No, just like I don’t necessarily believe that Killer00S4’s car’s potential is wholly defined by what he ran at that solitary outing. It goes both ways for me.
Also, look at my previous post regarding the ‘only fast at 100+MPH’ quips, as what I said is relevant to you as well. I’m pretty sure tach’s sweep from 4000-8000 RPM in every gear, not just 4th.
I think the funniest part about the blatant bias here, is that the crew doesn’t think that anyone sees it, and that you guys really believe that you’re being impartial (well, I am at least giving you the beiiiiiiiiiiiiinefficientficientficientficientficientficientficientficientficientficientficientficientficientit of the doubt that you all are not being intentionally biased).
[quote=“euroswagr,post:170,topic:3978”]
Sweet. Wish you luck, o arbiter of the 1/4 mile. I won’t be shooting for 12’s when I go.
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guys how do we even care about these jokes. jibber is such a fucking looser he won’t race FAWs ADDMITTED 14sec car.
lets realize both the B5 guys talking DON"T EVEN HAVE RUNNING CARS. ones car is so fast its blown up and hte other E expert is so fast that he wont race a 14sec car. come on these guiys are jokes.
these fools want peoiple to even care about a test that if cought will get you put into jail in most states. Its a buntch of loosers that have B5… nothing new…
how much of a l;augh to compair the 11.7@125 pass of hunter to the failed 11.9 super pass that only happened once. JHM has a car built for boost and ran 10.8@130 hunter has a street car and ran 11.7 in a wagon. Yes its impressive because of the 10 tial cars that have gone to the track there all fail then you get a few rs6r cars that go to the track and they do well out of the gate.
the bottom line hunters first time with a bottom dollar set up went faster then all tial times combinded and when you actually have a built car JHM the times are beyond that of the continued fail boat that is the tial scam
From an outsider looking in perspective, I see a lot of “no win” with this discussion. Why not save time and agree to disagree? Nobody in their right mind is going to come here and see an obvious winner on either side. A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion, still. An intelligent man will stop spinning his wheels RIGHT NOW. A shallow minded one will continue on, indefinitely. Who will take on the character of the shallow minded? Please do continue and show us.
Hey shit for brains…hunter trapped 125-127. On a pump tune. Not a race rune. Not a meth tune. A pump tune.
If you don’t think that’s a good result, your high school ignorance is showing. That’s why he was patted on the back.
When he went the first time nobody made excuses for him. We made fun of him for launching like a noob, and laughed at the thought of hitting the dragstrip in dress pants and an Oxford button down. I know you know nothing about the dragstrip and from the sounds of it have never been, but if you had you would realise that those details are very relevant to a funny story.
Did hunter make excuses, then run and hide? Amd style? Fuck no. He promised to go back as soon as his work schedule would allow it (just like the AMD guys all did after running mid twelves, including burninghole who said he was looking forward to really working on it and getting better. He never did fuck all… He was terrified to go back and fall on his face again)
Hunter on the other hand went back two weeks later and did really well. He trapped mid to high 120s. His et could certainly be improved (1.83 and 5.11 are frankly not so good short times but again I don’t expect ct you to know that being a dragstrip neophyte) and indicate he left tons on the table as that would see him through the launch, all of first, all of second and part of third. For perspective good stage three cars are usually in the 4s at 330 feet.
But I have to ask you, is there anyone even close to that time these days? Or trap? Again, if you had half a clue you’d realise that stock motor on a pump file, that is excellent. As in maybe the fastest pump file trap speed ever.
That avant you referenced? Trapped 120, had no exhaust on, and no fucking seats in the car. Oh…what tune and octane was he running?104. You really suck at this.
Nobody said it was a world beater but go and find me some other cars that have run faster than 11.7 @ 125 in the b5 world in the past two years…go on. There should be a couple dozen right? I don’t care if they have built motors nitrous twin gt or 770 or whatever the fuck you want. I will wait right here.
P. S. Hunter trapped 127 on one run, which is 1 mph of your 650 whp superstar boyfriend you’re defending vigorously. Starting to see the disconnect yet? You just praised his trap speed for his built supercar veyron beater… Then scoffed at hunter for doing the same in a Wagon on a pump file. Again, this shows everyone how out to lunch you really are.
Love this paragraph 
Keep on spewing those blatant lies that are so easily verified on the internet (re: my build not running (they can look at my posts on AZ and see videos of my car running and local people saying they’ve driven it) and FAW backing down to the challenge I gave him (they can read through the original thread here on AR in this B5 section). Lying to the faces of people that know the truth makes you look credible, right? That must be why you keep doing it? lol
[quote=“ChrisK,post:175,topic:3978”]
Of course, how silly of me to compare eeking out an 11.7 after multiple outings at the track to an 11.9 ran at the only time the car ever went to the track. How dare I think that 11.7 and 11.9 are comparable with comparable turbos.
[quote=“ChrisK,post:175,topic:3978”]
Of course this isn’t an excuse, right? Had Sascha (11.9 tial car) or Killer00S4 said this, it wouldn’t have been an excuse either, right? Of course it wouldn’t be an ‘excuse’ for them either, we all know how unbiased and objective ChrisK is with his Tial vs JHM opinions! Right guys? Right? Guys? … [crickets]
[quote=“ChrisK,post:175,topic:3978”]
Of course it’s impressive while another similar time is completely unimpressive! Of course! Nevermind that it’s not only Tial cars that we’re comparing it to. When Tial runs similar times, they get called out for not beating K04 cars from 6+ years ago. But when JHM car does the same and fails to beat K04 records from 6+ years ago, it’s definitely impressive!
(Behind the sarcasm, I really do think Hunter’s car and times are impressive, and I’m not trying to put his car down. His car is just as equally impressive as the other cars that run and have run similar times, just shedding a light on the already glaring bias.)
For jibber
Jibber AKA scared to race the 14sec FAW.
FACTs two B5 guys one scard to race a 14sec car and has a non running car and one altho I don’t have anything againsed killer has a car thats bblown up. Neither of them have gone 11 anyting but there experts :
If you don’t believ me wait for jibbers 60 paragragh telling you so.
Just to help you, I saw the notorious tial car three separate times at the track. 11.9 @ 116 was his best, on a meth tune, and he never got out of the twelves ever again in any of those three times he was there. He went at least one other time as well.
Both cars are full interior.
Hunter went 11.7 @ 124.75 on a pump file in an avant.
Notorious is about 5’9" 150, hunter is about 6’3" 260.
So hunter had around a 250 lb weight disadvantage and ran his pump file and still handily beat the fastest ever tial 605 car by 8 mph and a couple of tenths.
You really should stop.