See, 128-129 traps (now we hear that you had multiple passes at that trap?) does not say 650 whp. Or 600 whp. Maybe 500-525 whp.
That’s what’s troubling about this car/build/company. When asked to answer the call and perform the De facto standard acceleration test, it flopped.
In fact all of the Epl tuned cars there that night flopped.
In fact all of the Epl tuned cars we’ve ever seen have either flopped, or just not been anywhere near impressive.
You can say that the quarter mile is too hard or doesn’t work… But you and team Epl are the only people on earth who say that. The Audi tuners, evo tuners, subie tuners, amg tuners, m tuners, domestic tuners… You name them… They all say the quarter mile is the standard test…and they all scoff at anyone who brags about dyno, but flops at the quarter mile, then slags the strip off as a bad test. You get laughed out of those forums. On audi forums for running twelves in a supposed 600+ whp car, you get your back rubbed. Well not this one.
8 and 9 second gtrs use the quarter mile. 8-9 second corvettes use the quartile. 8-9 second twin turbo gallardos use the quarter mile. They make twice the power you make. They have no trouble. 500-600-700 whp amg cars use the quarter mile. Everyone does… Just not team Epl.
During the track session the car was probably around 575whp. problem is; my car stopped pulling at 6Kish and by 7kish it was well under 500WHP. Tuning was a main issue, along with shifting. It also was the first time at the track. Still pump gas and 128MPH Trap is not that bad. I just couldn’t get the thing to shift at the top of RPMS.
I am confident, given the tuning advances at AMD I could crush it at the 1/4. No matter how you try and break down my experience, you just don’t have all the data points to make a concrete conclusion.
It’s alright, because when I just step on it, I do 5.7 60-130… Just don’t make me shift… please…
Oh and BTW, I am not using EPL tuning this time around.
Haven’t I been saying for 12 months to you guys that Epl tuning is letting these cars down where it counts?
I don’t understand why you now tell me this information, which solidifies what I’ve said all along about these under performing tial amd Epl tuned cars.
Instead you guys all called me a tial hater (even though I’ve said multiple times the turbos seem to work well, getting into boost and making big power at reasonable rpms… But the tuning is a drawback that wrecks it)
Problem was; 3L Tuning and the setup just had its difficulties in the early days, the reality is, with the proper tuning my car could have been doing better 60-130 and much better 1/4 times. So much was wrong with the setup already and it was terrible for 1/4, not AMD fault though, I just didn’t spend the money on stuff that the car really needed.
get the big port uppers have jason do a e86 tune and get into the 4 60-130 and ill be impressed or trap in the 140s! 3L 770s should be the killer combo
All you guys SCARED to even log your cars 60-130 make me laugh, you can do this at a track, on a private road, etc. Hell it should take you 12seconds and under, or in the case of B6 fail 15sec and over lol…
I don’t care who thinks what, but google any car 60-130 and you will find someone doing it.
It is just another way of measuring how fast a car is in a certain range, and in the case of GTR’s they shift amazingly fast.
You fail to even consider that 1/4 mile requires someone to SHIFT FAST to keep their momentum up. Any AUTOMATIC car has a distinct advantage in the 1/4 if setup right.
So what I see is people who get into the 11’s but cant do 11second 60-130 make me laugh just as much as a supposed 600whp monster car that cant do better then 12.2sec @ 128 on pump gas, because literally the driver sucked at hitting his shifts. This whole argument makes me laugh.
Answer me this, if I take a manual transmission car, that has 800whp and only make 3 out of 5 shifts how fast am I going at the 1/4? Oh, but if you see that this car did shit 1/4 mile times you would either blame it on his faked power numbers or the fact that his tuning sucked.
Answer me this genius, If you race another car with your 60-130 beast at the track(or street) and the other car beats you to the 1/4 doing 127mph, do you think your car will reach 130 before the car that beat you to the 1/4 mile mark?
It’s funny but you will find that tons of people on here have tested their cars at 60-130
Nobody is scared.
The things you just don’t seem to recognize is that if your build only let’s you be fast in one gear at high speeds its poorly done. Simple as that.
As for losing momentum with shift times if you knew anything about the quarter mile you would also know that on the 1-2 and 2-3 you actually are gaining momentum while shifting… On the 3-4 you are steady… And on the 4-5 you lose momentum.
Further bad shifting does not cost you 15 tenths off et and 12-15 mph. It will cost you a few mph at most. Bad tuning on the other hand can cost you everything.
It has already been said by me and others here that your car is no doubt super fast while in gear at high speeds with heavy octane. Unfortunately for you, to the people on this site that’s not really a benchmark anyone strives for.
It’s great how you mentioned the super fast 60-130 cars on 6speed…because if you go in there and tell them that your car went a best of mid 12’s at 128, they will Scratch their heads and say that something is wrong with this picture. I did that last year and sure enough they did. Everyone can see there’s a problem with your car but you. As I also said before if your goal was to build a car that was a disaster at low speeds, relied on high octane tuning and single gear pulls at a very particular speed…mission accomplished. Well, mission accomplished for a couple of months until it blew up.
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Pretty retarded statement.
Pretty retarded statement.
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Yes, it’s fun to watch him put the one test he can be good at on a pedestal. His comment that the 60-130 is universally equal with the quarter mile is a joke. If you spend too much time on 6speed your brain turns to mush I guess.
Hey burninghole if you want to see how NOT universally accepted the 60-130 is, take a stroll on over to audizine and look through tweets estates official audizine 60-130 database. There are like 6 (SIX) times on it lol.
Have a look at the quarter mile database here or s4biturbo or audizine or wherever… There are dozens upon dozens of timeslips…for EACH platform.
Yes, it’s fun to watch him put the one test he can be good at on a pedestal. His comment that the 60-130 is universally equal with the quarter mile is a joke. If you spend too much time on 6speed your brain turns to mush I guess.
Hey burninghole if you want to see how NOT universally accepted the 60-130 is, take a stroll on over to audizine and look through tweets estates official audizine 60-130 database. There are like 6 (SIX) times on it lol.
Have a look at the quarter mile database here or s4biturbo or audizine or wherever… There are dozens upon dozens of timeslips…for EACH platform.
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Audizine didn’t create the 60-130 Sakofballs, why don’t you hit up 6speedonline.com where cars that all of the folks on this site only dream of show off their 60-130 times.
Oh look another 60-130 vs 1/4 queen argument. This site fails at everything.
