and thank you for the welcome!
Loe, welcome to the Forum nice to see another S5 Member here. You wont be disappointed in the GIAC fastest so far i ran in my S5 was 11.75.
Looking forward for your results.
Congrats on the new tune,…glad you are enjoying it…from the looks of it sounds like you got a pretty good deal. I am looking to go stage 2 w/DSG…just waiting for the GIAC holiday sale coming up hopefully soon
Yeah, if you’re going to tinker with this car a cable is a must IMO… Hit me up when you get it and I’ll be glad to help. Jran also has an awesome thread, on logging check that out… I should have some more parameters and readings to add on e85 over the next week or two… Quarter mile times tommorow ;D
spoke too soon…I’m actually closer to an “E45 mix” than an E40 mix on this tank. Ran into a CEL for a lean bank 1 / bank 2 when I was using light throttle last night (very very light). However, the car felt just a strong as it did prior to lighting a CEL, but I eventually cleared the code with the Carista app. I’ll be putting in a couple gallons of 100 octane today to avoid it and run the tank dry and start fresh…
…time for that ross-tech now.
thanks, the GIAC stage 2/TCU/AWE combo definitely feels stronger than my previous cars (335i N54 6spd JB4 G5/ E85 / DCI and an E90 M3 DCT Evolve stage 2 ecu/tcu/test-pipes). I hope I end up trapping higher than I did with those two cars (335i = 110.xxmph, M3 = 113.xxmph), next test and tune i’ll be running to confirm. Bradenton Speedway isn’t known as a fast track despite being essentially sea-level. The humidity/temps are a usually terrible.
Welcome loe. For the 3.0T there are only two names that are worth spending money with. APR and GIAC you will see that on the EPL tune you might have to give it away as most guys have seen Tony just isnt able to get it done and not only that but you want to pay for experience and a large collection of cars using the formula that works. APR and GIAC have just that. Your in good hands.
t/y, I didn’t realize that I wanted all out performance until I went to the track and saw a comparably modded B8.5 with an APR/ROC intake. Yeah I learned it the hard way without fully researching, it doesn’t appear on-par with GIAC and APR in terms of all out performance.
All is not bad with EPL though, the flash at home is convenient (which Unitronic now offers, so really not unique anymore), you normally get new files from Tony within 30 minutes at a price, you basically have an unlimited amount of files on the server to flash back and forth, and speak to the developer on the phone. It just needs some additional remapping and tune development if it wants to compete with GIAC or APR in terms of all out performance, but it does perform better than stock and I think that’s what the majority of his customer-base seems to enjoy.
me? I want to hit those high 11’s on stock S5 peelers and without the cooling system upgrade on either pump or e85/93 mix.
finally sold the EPL, I can rest easy now…
[QUOTE=derek.kritz;11230034]Hmmm. Yeah, temp seems to be the culprit across the board. Dependent on elevation (density altitude)…Here is my theory…again, just speculating. I’m not an expert…
As the temps get colder, the timing of the engine is allowed to go further. That is why we see more power when it’s colder. Ok…As the car shifts, the timing is dumped, the next gear is picked up, and the car attempt to get back up to the same timing that it was at before the gear change. That is normal of a torque based ecu. If the timing is very high at the end of the previous gear, the ecu can’t bring it back to that high a value fast enough, causing hesitation or bogginess. When in a 2nd gear pull going to third, is when I see it the worst. Last logs I saw I was at like 40 degrees of timing at the end of 2nd. When it shifts the car stops accelerating and sits at 4K. That is to protect itself. Again, I’m running full e85. No fuel trim codes at all. No faults…
Now, the other beta tester with the same ecu, same exact tune, is testing in Dallas tx. He is seeing none of these signs. Do to his DA (density altitude) being like 8k LESS then mine. I’m thinking elevation is having a big roll in this. At least for the tune I’m on. Again not an expert. Gonna run more logs to see where I’m at. Will report back.
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Wow! Those are Revo blown motor timing levels… Also, I wonder if he’s running an upgraded hpfp… 8K less DA also in Dallas? lol…
Wow! Those are Revo blown motor timing levels… Also, I wonder if he’s running an upgraded hpfp… 8K less DA also in Dallas? lol…
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DA of 8k more than Dallas he was saying. He’s likely in Colorado.
What tune? Who is that guy?
Could be but that still seems like an unrealistic DA change between Dallas to CO, I’ll look…
Epl… Tune/pulley car on e85… Don’t know much about him he’s been chiming in on lots of threads recently… Lots of interesting comments like above…
Ah, standard epl bullshit
Nothing new. Prime good job posting this so people can see how to not tune a car.
Lets see what 2016 has in store for EPL, perhaps good numbers may come out of this just like Unitronic’s stage 2 trap speeds on a pump file, granted he was running a 93/E85 blend, more than like running a total of 95 octane), however it does show that the Uni 2 is almost par with APR/GIAC on a pump file based on the trap alone.
Yeah, I saw that time it’s pretty good… I ran a slightly better ET with slightly lower trap on pump a few years ago, I think people don’t realize the impact E85 has and his DA was stellar when I ran it wasn’t nearly as good… Regardless it’s a good result… 6-speed car as well…
it’s really hard to call anything ‘pump’ when it’s running alcohol. Pump doesn’t mean it comes out of a pump. It means street gasoline, aka less than 95 octane. We’ve seen people run 91+E85 and run a race gas file without the car knocking. Adding E85 is significant, and if the mix is anywhere near even, it’s not a 2 octane bump. It’s much more.
Where’s the info on the unitronic car?
And as for ‘waiting for good things from EPL’ don’t hold your breath. They’ve been the self annointed B5 S4 experts for 8 years and still haven’t produced a single fast timeslip even though they’ve tuned hundreds of cars and posted dozens of dynos over 500 whp. They’re a bullshit artist and they don’t know what they’re doing. It’s really quite simple.
Saki, He posted in the 1/4 mile thread on vendorzine…
[QUOTE=DGVR6;11201624]Did 11.9 at ATCO a few days ago. I might go again next week to try for 11.8.
All runs 93/e85 on 93 map. Don’t have access to HOM which sucks. I’ll post slip and vid when I have time since I’m always rushing around or just see if I pull a better one
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Mods in sig…
2011 S4 | Quartz Grey Metallic Prestige | 19" Peelers | Black Leather/Alcantara | B&O | Nav | 6MT | VCDS Mods | Roc Euro | AWE Track 90mm Black Tips | ECS Spacers | UNI Stage 2+ | PLM Intercooler | Eurocode STS | Eurocode Trans Mount Insert | Eurocode Stage 3 Clutch/Flywheel | USP SS Clutch line
11.978@117.71 - Unitronic Stage 2 B8 S4 6MT
E85/93 on 93 file
yes e85 isnt pump. Anything that has more octane then standard race gas its hard to call it pump. e85 is in in race gas catagory
I guess what I’m trying to say is, if the Uni-2 was running straight 93 octane, the results may have been comparable to a stage 2 GIAC/APR 6speed under similar conditions and vice versa (where if the GIAC/APR were running a pump file with 93/E85 mix).