EYEspI/ Mantis GIAC stage 2 issues

Soon to be second fastest car on pump and second fastest overall.

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April 6th weather depending!

[quote=ā€œJones2012s4,post:81,topic:5362ā€]
Niceā€¦ I hope youā€™re right and I guess will see soonā€¦

Nothing to gain personally as my customers donā€™t subscribe to this forum, that was what I meant, unfortunately in Israel we donā€™t get too many S5ā€™s as they are ridiculously over priced and just not worth the money.

The scene here is comprised mostly of 2.0 tsi/tfsi cars and a GIAC car actually took first place 2 times in a row in Israelā€™s official drag race averaging a 12.2 1/4 mile with a K04 98 Ron and W/M injection but thatā€™s not really related to this thread and Iā€™m sure just bringing it up would yield more hate towards me so apologies in advance to any haters out there :wink:

Didnā€™t mean to upset anyone and I apologize if I did.

B7 or B8? Is there a link you can supply with information regarding these passes?

^^ Also, what counts as an ā€œofficialā€ drag race in Israel?

this is ignorant as fuckā€¦but it made me laugh

http://media.web.britannica.com/eb-media/44/61344-004-C849C1BB.jpg

Itā€™s probably going to be VW 2.0Ts

I was wrong, it was a Seat. Damn ROW.

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57156

Holy fuck Saki - Iā€™m shocked coming from a Canuck like youā€¦ lol

Hey welcome to the forum Avihai.

Avihai thatā€™s also one of my favorite movies ever, when I saw ā€œAvi-ā€ thatā€™s all I could think about. Rip Dennis Farina, No insult meant by the video.

Primetime and Sakimano said exactly what I would have (minus the camels lol). By your own admission the APR car wasnā€™t working properly (just like EyespI and GIAC) but in both cases the problems should have been fixed by the tuner. Comparing the performance of the two cars you mentioned in their relative condition is pretty ignorant, especially the 50 go comment. You have a lot to catch up on as to the real performance of APR, GIAC, and other tunes available for this car.

[quote=ā€œJones2012s4,post:81,topic:5362ā€]
you should put stage 2 caveats in there.

Anyway, arenā€™t you like 7th now ? And thatā€™s 7th of the times that are postedā€¦youā€™re actually in reality 8th or worse.

Itā€™s crazy the breadth of the B8 list. Thereā€™s a 11.78, 77, 76, 75, 74, 69, 62, 60.

The 7th fastest B8 S4 is almost equal to the 7th fastest RS4ā€¦ When you think about it, the spread between 1st fastest RS4 to 7th fastest is like a whole second. In the B8 S4, that spread is a tenth. And the RS4 has been around for 3 more years.

Todd@AWE has been working in the background to make things right, I will post info as I have it

dude I literally googled to see what would come up, then clicked through a couple of links andā€¦well the rest is diplomatic Canada-Israeli relations destruction history

No offense taken :slight_smile:
Just to make things clear, it was the same car for both tunes, customer went to APR and got a stg2, averaged 4.1 0-60mph on a racelogic pbox - wasnā€™t happy, came to me, installed GIAC stage 1 - said it measured the same as APR stg2 on the pbox then installed the GIAC stg2 + DSG tune and averaged 3.8 on the pbox.

Saki and Tsivas and atude will have a lot to say about pbox numbers taken from the screen rather than the bin file. But I digress. If thereā€™s something you know that can help EyespI, maybe having some insight or like experience, let us know. Is GIAC making you install DSG tunes mandatory with stage II? How many shekels is it over there

Re the camels, thatā€™s really no different than someone posting igloos or cowboys or whatever. I laughed.

It can vary greatly. I donā€™t know why.
Example

2 weeks ago, my rs4 with JHM exhaust
0-60 screen 4.1
0-60 for that run on the datafile 4.32

A week later same car, same driveway
0-60 screen 4.2
0-60 for that run on the datafile 4.28

Explain that one lol. Not to mention the screen doesnā€™t show if youā€™re going straight downhill whereas the datafile does. Even then that too can be off as much as 0.5-0.75%ā€¦which is 8 feet in a 1/4 mile run.

All in, the pbox is a fun tool but it is wrong enough that nobody should be using it to benchmark performance and to stake reputations of businesses on it. Itā€™s too wonky

[quote=ā€œsakimano,post:91,topic:5362ā€]

Stage 2 caveats?

And I didnā€™t say anything about now? I was referencing what will hopefully be record runs come April.

Camel Joke was funny I laughed too (And kept the picture for future use), Iā€™ll try to get the Racelogic logs and post, they should still be there I guess and itā€™s just a matter of getting the SD front he customer and digging into it a little, regarding the DSG tune, didnā€™t do a lot of B8ā€™s, however on the B8.5ā€™s I do highly recommend a DSG tune with stage 2, otherwise I ask Garret for a low output file as the gearbox tends to be overprotective of it self in the newer cars.

Now thatā€™s interesting info. Thanks Avihai, any B8s get that file? We know the DSG shift points are pretty low on the B8.5s, DSG tuning would be nice (someone here still went 12.1-12.2 with GIAC on B8.5 and no DSG tune) But this is the first (well, first confirmation of EyespIā€™s experience) Iā€™m hearing of a lower output file to protect the car.

It makes sense, but people might be a little hurt if they knew that one tuner dumbed down the tune for people who didnā€™t spend $3k plus, whereas maybe the other tuner didnā€™t.

Now Iā€™m very curious what Todd or Garrett has to say. And/or Arin, as to what APR does.

Remember the logs weā€™ve seen on GIAC shows load map restrictions from both Pete and Jonesā€¦at least the last ones I saw from them. I guess the last tune revision gives them the full monte finally?

At this time nobody has indicated that they watered down my tune, but I did buy the dsg file.

I would get out and run the car if it werenā€™t still - 15c and snowing