If that is true you have a real point. I don’t know what it takes to put a B8 S4 into limp mode or of that’s even possible on the OEM tune with too high intake temps. The thing that also makes this debate hard to have is maybe there wasn’t anything going on that would require the car to go into limp mode regardless of tune. It could have been a failure that would have happened tuned or not.
Apr is usually trying to figure out why the engine is going into limp mode when is not supposed to. The only thing they override is the emissions cel if you are catless.
You’ve not been in a car that has gone into limp mode? I’m afraid you know nothing about running cars hard. I’ve been able to trigger a limp mode on a V8 S5 and a BMW 335i sedan.
You’ve not been in a car that has gone into limp mode? I’m afraid you know nothing about running cars hard. I’ve been able to trigger a limp mode on a V8 S5 and a BMW 335i sedan.
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My car went into limp mode when my water pump failed. Can I join the “running cars hard” club?
justincredible: westwest888:Normally what would happen is the engine would go into a limp mode before exploding. I don’t think any of these tuned cars have a limp mode, like OEM does.
If that is true you have a real point. I don’t know what it takes to put a B8 S4 into limp mode or of that’s even possible on the OEM tune with too high intake temps. The thing that also makes this debate hard to have is maybe there wasn’t anything going on that would require the car to go into limp mode regardless of tune. It could have been a failure that would have happened tuned or not.
Apr is usually trying to figure out why the engine is going into limp mode when is not supposed to. The only thing they override is the emissions cel if you are catless.
I agree. My post was more perspective then anything. Can a stock B8 S4 go into limp mode for too hot intake temps or would it just request less boost.
You’ve not been in a car that has gone into limp mode? I’m afraid you know nothing about running cars hard. I’ve been able to trigger a limp mode on a V8 S5 and a BMW 335i sedan.
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Well a BMW will go into limp mode if you shut the door hard enough… lol. Jk
The question is why did each car go into limp mode and how did you come to the conclusion that was why.
Generally it’s my experience that a properly running car shouldn’t ever see limp mode. I get your point you can push most cars to failure or the limits but lost cars should be able to take lots of track time and not get limp mode. There should be plenty of fresh air to keep the motor warm and keep the coolant under control.
Vogz:West, you are hopeless. APR modifies the boost and timing targets on the Audi factory ECU. All the factory knock safeguards remain in place. It’s been very clearly documented with tons of data logging that when the 3.0TFSI gets hot the Simos ECU with APR modifications in place pulls timing and boost to quell any slight amount of knock that develops just like it would in a completely stock vehicle.
So should I switch to APR, or stay put just in case they had something to do with the motor blowing?
I don’t think anyone cares what tune you run on your car.
But an S4/A4/Golf doesn’t have the 911/981 transmission as you repeatedly state, citing an article no one can read in German.
Hey shitforbrains. I never once said the 911 PDK is the same as the audi DSG. Your dumbness is fucking frustrating.
I will say this once more.
You said ‘PDK is AMAZING, dsg is SHIT.’
A number of people showed you that PDK = dsg in some cases. Showing what a tard you are.
That’s it. Now you’re educated. And shitting on the macan to save face.
You add zero value, argue without any knowledge base and basically make the place worse. And you’re dumb as a fucking rock.
I will be sure to set my alarm each day to remind me to spite you into oblivion.
I don’t ever really have to insult anyone to share information or ideas about cars. But thanks for filling up my thread with information about SUV’s.
Saying APR didn’t blow this motor is like denying climate change. You can make the argument but why would you?
^^ Shut the fuck up, dude. Seriously. Your time on AR is quickly coming to a close.
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great first post
I don’t ever really have to insult anyone to share information or ideas about cars. But thanks for filling up my thread with information about SUV’s.
Saying APR didn’t blow this motor is like denying climate change. You can make the argument but why would you?
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And once again West can’t resist being a troll and gets suspended as a result.
Also, in regard to the Revo failures, weren’t logs showing significant cylinder 6 knock on multiple cars?
So far as I’m aware, we have yet to see any APR logs showing those issues.
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and it was not knock because the logs showed nothing knock wise or timing pull wise.
it was cylinder 5 that imploded on those cars where the motor blew. Mostly the race file. Happened to one guy on the forum, then jspazz, then friedgreentomatoes.
how long ago were those cat engine failures?
Ynnekdude:Also, in regard to the Revo failures, weren’t logs showing significant cylinder 6 knock on multiple cars?
So far as I’m aware, we have yet to see any APR logs showing those issues.
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and it was not knock because the logs showed nothing knock wise or timing pull wise.
it was cylinder 5 that imploded on those cars where the motor blew. Mostly the race file. Happened to one guy on the forum, then jspazz, then friedgreentomatoes.
Wasn’t there a signal like “misfire totalizer” that went from 0 to 300 during a single pull? I thought this combined with zero timing pull from knock mic’s and engine going boom was the evidence needed to draw the conclusion.
how long ago were those cat engine failures?
cat engine?
sakimano: Ynnekdude:Also, in regard to the Revo failures, weren’t logs showing significant cylinder 6 knock on multiple cars?
So far as I’m aware, we have yet to see any APR logs showing those issues.
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and it was not knock because the logs showed nothing knock wise or timing pull wise.
it was cylinder 5 that imploded on those cars where the motor blew. Mostly the race file. Happened to one guy on the forum, then jspazz, then friedgreentomatoes.
Wasn’t there a signal like “misfire totalizer” that went from 0 to 300 during a single pull? I thought this combined with zero timing pull from knock mic’s and engine going boom was the evidence needed to draw the conclusion.
not sure, but the poster said ‘weren’t logs showing significant cylinder 6 knock’.
cobrario:how long ago were those cat engine failures?
cat engine?
sorry - I’m an insurance guy, cat=catastrophic.
ah ok. These were 2011-2013. I believe they changed the parameters quite a bit.
in other news, this thread is nice and quiet today. A lot less stupid.