I randomly met a guy who bought a used RS4 with a PES kit on it. Purchased somewhere out of Colorado I think.
I didn’t have the heart to tell him that his kit isn’t worth bragging about.
Really interesting thread for me purely because I am considering going the charged route.
I can pick up a 2nd hand PES G4 locally for around $2000. This is the description of what you will get for your money.
PES G4 supercharger with 4psi and 7psi pulleys, includes stage 2 intercooler (without piping). The snout has recently been rebuilt and I have a full rotor pack rebuild kit. You will need injectors, idler pulley and serpentine belt to install, all can be sourced locally.
However, could turn out to be a real can of worms and the old saying, where there is smoke there is normally a fire comes to mind so I figure I will rather put my hard earn money towards a new charger and I doubt that it would be PES. Just to many stories etc. flying around. Too many other quality kits out there as mentioned JHM, APR and TTS etc. However, if I have to pull the trigger right now I would probably go JHM Stage 2 if possible and get it over with. Sure the other kits mentioned are all good companies with excellent hardware etc. but for me the value for money and the research that comes with the JHM is probably what swings my $$$ in their favor at this stage. Just can’t justify spending close to double on anyone of the other kits.
Tell him to sell it used to one of the fools on A5oc or RS246. Then use the proceeds for JHM tune/exhaust, and he’ll wind up with a faster car. 
Rs4fan just get a good exhaust and tune and you will be as fast as a pes g4 rs4
Damn clochner beat me to it
Rs4fan I’ve seen full pes kits go for 1000$ frankly they aren’t worth that. Most people get the kit thinking they see a great opportunity for such a cheep price. There’s a reason it’s so cheep. It’s because it’s not with more. The thought is… well if the kit is this cheap I can’t loose. But just think, the seller realizes that the kit sucks so bad he is willing to sell it for dirt cheep, just to be rid of it.
Like I said in our previous conversation, the past has shown that after we are comfortable with the safety and performance of our supercharger kits we allow people to purchase the kit before the official release. I also stated that we would know more as we get closer. I cannot promise you anything at this point in time.
I went 12.3 (m90) and 11.7 (112) then 11.4 (tts) I love performance data, well I enjoy obtaining the results especially good ones. Tts car ran 6.3 100-200 in really top conditions though think it was -1/2 degrees
sometimes software isn’t refined by tuners before releasing the product to the public.
Roger, an S5 owner in North America, complains that his TTS kit had partial throttle acceleration problems with his car, and no it’s not surging from boost.
It’s one thing to set up a tune for mapping an engine with a conservative tune for all conditions or heat soak. It’s another to dial in a tune on newer Ecu’s that can constantly change parameters based on ambient air temps. and to ensure that dailly driving isn’t effected too much, if at all. a comprehensive tune.
Is Roger the only TTS S5 to have partial throttle problems? does anyone know if it’s been resolved?
is he the rnlabas guy?
Haven’t heard anything about any the s5 other than horsepower who owns tts and was also fighting the car a bi5, and Roger who I thought was a tts distributor. Or was that someone else?
There is an rs4 over here with the tts kit. Not sure where he went.
Mrc likes to tune cars on their dyno . For whatever reason they fought really hard for that. Maybe that’s the issue with Roger’s car.
Quite a non sequitur by the way.
It was Roger’s S5.
Sorry for the non-sequitur. I was trying to point out to the TTRS4 member that the TTS kit for the S5 may have a little bit of a software problem with daily driving conditions, as opposed to just modifying the WOT portion of tuning the vehicle’s ECU. We’d all agree it’s not just hardware, but the software as well to get the most from, in this case, a supercharger kit.
Buddy…please reply to this. There are people on other forums who think PES is fine because a PES sales rep is running around saying you were the only one who had a problem and that you have your money back from TONY@PES so all is well
If you do have your money back, please clarify.
If you DON’T have your money back, please also clarify. There are people sitting on the decision whether or not to write cheques and give credit card info to PES for $10,000-15,000 on these fucking kits, and if they are being lied to and PES is indeed bust, I think you owe it to them to clarify
I got fucking CRUCIFIED on rs246 and they locked the thread after Spinner the tale spinner said you had your money back and were happy.
Do you? Are you?
Here’s what PES is posting on the UK forums
http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=109547&start=15#p670262
[quote=Spinner@PES]I’m still waiting for sakimano to back up his rumour there was/is more than the one client already dealt with?
So clearly the client has been liaising with JHM, fine we’ve already been watching the audirevolution thread and guessed as much but this is the final nail in the coffin [size=12pt]so decide to supply the client a full immediate refund and wish him all the best with the JHM option.
This was then followed up by Tony with his post on audirevolution to admit failure of communication, confirm the matter has been resolved and categorically state the business is not in trouble plus supply new contact details.
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PES is saying you already have your refund.
So is PES also a sponsor of RS246? That would explain the thread lock I guess.
http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=109547&start=15#p670043
“Hi all, as Tony (PES’s President) is still awaiting forum membership approval I’m posting here as PES’s UK and largest international agent, Audi Superchargers UK.”
Guess the request was finally approved (or spinner made the request).
Either way, forum and vendor are in bed together…hence, no impartiality.
I wonder if any of them actually took a look at the google map location. lol.
MRC TUNING (UK)
http://i62.tinypic.com/2upu5p3.jpg
JHMotorsports
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1077319_10151827333251807_1913125709_o.jpg
APR
http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/3253683202_bb77ae07c2_o-600x400.jpg
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PES
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/PES_zps044fc12c.jpg
That’ll really shake you into perspective. My only PES experience was I once spoke with a disgruntled pes customer. His claim was PES has no inventory of parts ever. He said PES buys parts after people pay for them. To me this seems to make a logical conclusion for how PES works. Why would PES take money from someone on EBay and not be able to ship for months.
PES has a terrible reputation and history. Now after seeing their new building, you can’t help but loose faith in where they are going. If PES is doing to well and they are ready to sell kits perhaps they should show a picture of their ready to be shipped kits next to a daily newspaper. Maybe it’s time to make a PES warning thread and include all the failure upset customers and lies they have told and apparently keep telling.
Don’t think pes are sponsors on 246. Phil the only site admin is a car nut currently owning an r35 and a tuned b5 rs4. I fully expect him to do his homework before just approving a sponsorship request 
But where do you draw the line? It’s obvious that Audi Superchargers UK is advertising on behalf of PES. Is spinner a regular, standard member and advertising for free?
here’s the real estate listing for PES’ old address (which they still have listed on their web page as their current address)
NOTE THE AVAILABLE BY DATE
Description
Industrial condominium for lease in a 4year old building.Unit offers an office area and warehouse with a rear loading drive in door. 16 ft ub, public water and sewer, 200 amp 3-phase electric . Condo association takes care of the snow, lawn, trash and exterior maintenance. Unit will be available mid March 2014.
So PES’ old location was vacant 2 months ago…and their new location (lol) is an abandoned garage that Tony is using for mail.
So…where the fuck is PES??? I mean if this is a great company with great products coming along including lasers (lol), where the fuck are these motherfuckers?
let me paint the picture to show you how absurd this is.
You’re moving your business. If you’re a normal (i.e. real) business, you prep this well in advance. You pre-arrange forwarding mail. You arrange the phone move. You ensure all of your communications are up and running long before you move. You then prep the new location and ensure business as usual happens once you change addresses.
How does PES claim they did it?
They didn’t tell anyone…literally nobody. They didn’t get their phone lines moved, and in fact have lost their old numbers. They didn’t get the new place ready…it’s still an abandoned old shit hole. They didn’t arrange for staff to move (everyone is gone) and they have basically not done anything a normal (i.e. real) business would do.
So, either PES has fired all of its staff (other than Spinner who is a 100% commission sales rep thus $0 overhead) and is doing the worst business location move of all time…a mere 10 miles across town but completely fukt every step of the way…or PES is dead.
Seems to me that it’s pretty clear. They got booted from Camars drive months ago…scrambled…couldn’t move their phone lines…didn’t change their web page (probably haven’t paid that guy either)…and are now fukt and scrambling to give answers.