Hi All. Owner of the RS4 with the AMD S/C base kit checking in.

  1. No I’m not. Jason@amd and Jonathan @ aviva PM’d me for fuck’s sake. Ask them if they want me to post their pms on the forum and if they’re OK with it, then I will.

  2. You are wrong. The 1.0 kit matched Apr at the strip. Not the cheap one. That 1.0 kit is going to be way more than the $11,000 0.9 kit.

  3. Sorry My hd video isn’t good enough for you lol. In case you haven’t noticed, rs4 per posted the other video. Guess we should hire a film crew.

This is not a witch hunt. This is a bunch of people scrutinizing a bullshit marketing campaign… While a bunch of other people protect the company that is doing such a poor job.

We have disappointing quarter mile times for the big boost kit… A disappointing race for the 0.9 kit… And the most useless before after dyno I’ve seen in a while, not that anyone with a brain in their head would buy based on a dyno sheet.

So far this kit launch is a failure. Hopefully they figure their shit out. I just want to see more fast rs4s.

Jared either get your lies stright or get there lies stright. .one week the kitt is ready for sale the next week after it flops its still in development. .amd is trying to either sell parts to customers that are still 8n develop ment or they just plain have no idea what there doing…its a lot of both

The big hail marry kit failed big…so now what…more boost…sure they spend what looks like a few months driving the car then when it fails the answer is more boost…what we are all smart enough to see is amd kit is failing infront of our eyes and were watching them try to back peddle akd figgure it out right as they said it was ready. …

The stage 1 non intercooled amd kit has nithung more then an empty dyno graph the race shows the car isnt making no where near 400whp anything. . Looks like more amd b5 dyno flare…

If by some chance the stage 1 actually performs close to the apr kit it will still be over priced because the alr kit has an intercooler and several years running

It’s fun to read stuff like this where amd Jason is boasting about how so many of these kits are already sold… Only to find out there are still just the two beta cars

Remember a month ago when I referred to rs4 per and woodi as beta cars and one of the amd fanboy jumped all over me because they were supposedly fully in production? Now we find out they’re back to the drawing board because the full monty car went and disappointed.

P. S. FACT…some of these facts have already been unFACTed.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/Screenshot_2013-04-30-22-08-48_zps1bcb6d7f.png

SO much for fact 5 and consumer being able to have the kit tuned by whoever

and fact 2 (it’s $11,000
’ special’ for beta testers and will be higher once they’re done testing on people’s cars) .

And I guess based on that, fact 8

So, as per fact 8, nothing in this thread is true, including the OP.

How to fuck up a product launch 101.

Still missing the one and only fact most people care about (or at least me as a potential buyer)… 1/4 mile times.

Wow just realized I commented on that thread from the initial time I was approached about the kit. He said 10k WITH tune! Now its 11k.

I made sure to crop it including your post. He said less than $10,000 all in, retail price…And the special he offered you in order to borrow your car and let epl practice writing a 93 file was $11,000 lol

Dave,

That thread started with me after I picked up the MTM catback from KMD.

They were telling me about you buying the AMD super charger and them installing if for you etc.

They gave me the cost of the SC and install etc and it cost more than I expected.

Then you backed up my story in this thread since you were the guy that was going to have KMD install it.

This whole AMD thing reminds me of EBWerks…I dont like Jason and I did not like Enrique.

Steve

Jason has burned his bridges with most seriou enthusiasts. He seems to live off the welth and gullibility of peole…to date not one of there cars has actually performed outside of a dyno or non real world everyday siuations…the guys attirude and actions have more people laughing at him and his failures then the small few that have anything positive to say.

FACT every car that has been a amd spokesman has either blown there motkr or had to have the motor removed for msteryous reasons

Nope. The 1.0 car (which was the first .9 car and has now been upgraded to 1.0) has had no such issues.

Has he been an amd spokesman yet?

Also Jared shouldn’t you be contacting Jonathan and Jason about what they PM’d me and finding out if they are ok with me posting their information publicly? Or did you want to apologize and take that back?

haha…insert

Dynojet numbers were posted. : )

Here’s what one of our customers put down in the North West near you (92 octane, 91 Octane calibration).

He was stock other than the supercharger.

3 back to back pulls, same SAE correction factor you used. Uncorrected was higher (hits 450 WHP uncorrected).

http://www.goapr.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/AMD-vs-APR-dynojet.png

This is what we expected to see in terms of supercharger sizing. The smaller charger will make more power down low and the bigger charger will make more power towards redline. Looks like the TVS1900 edges out the TVS1320 after 7300 RPM.

How fast are you spinning 1900 at redline (what’s redline too). How fast do you, or they plan on spinning it at the highest stage?

Makes total sense.
Thanks Arin ! Great day when the theory and the results line up. This is a very constructive posts, shows how awesome and capable the TVS range is.

The reason for the difference is that volumetricly speaking the TVS rotors do not pump their rated displacement until ~ 15,000 rpm. The LP system is spinning the TVSR1900 very slowly, as compared for ex the HP system.
With the smaller charger matched to the 4.2, its well past 16k rotor rpm sooner, so its working at full rating, moving air… making boost and power. sooner.

Isotropically speaking ( Efficiency in terms of work & heat, IAT’s ) peaks at ~ 8,000-15,000 rotor rpm. ( boost dependent ) So low rotor rpms are important. kind of a wierd interplay between volumetric eff, and isentropic eff.

Or the graph You posted explains it perfectly. Much respect.

I Hat makes sense as i posted here yesterday. The amd salesman in disguise Jprice exported that the 1900 would have a big torque advantage down low but that makes no sense. I said I would expect to see the 1900 shine and put up delta towards red line, not down low.

I pm’d that to Jonathan too because the results posted yesterday (overlaying the delta for both the amd 0.9 Mustang dyno vs the Apr 1320 hub dyno) showed significant torque delta for the 1900 early on, and was neck and neck from 6k-8k. As a few of us said clearly that was not realistic, and that it screamed that the amd baseline dyno used was out of whack. The wobbly line also shines a spotlight on this.

Anyway kudos to a viva for the kit running a killer quartermile time as it appears the 1.0 kit did on Woodi’s test car. I just hope that in that state it can put down some reliable power for a long time to come.

Truth is Apr, aviva, Jhm, tts all appear to be getting good results from the rs4…all in dramatically different ways. Pretty neat to see.

Apr - 1.32 liter twin vortices blower integrated along with cooling in the manifold

Aviva - 1.9 liter vortices blower integrated along with cooling in the manifold

Tts - centrifugal rotrex blower integrated along with cooling in the manifold

Jhm - centrifugal vortech blower mounted distally with a massive air to water intercooler… Manifold untouched. Not to mention a normally aspirated program that has outstripped the m90 kits and is approaching 1/4 mile ET posted by the other blower kits

Pretty neat.

Thanx Arin, for taking some time to post this. Can you share the modifications on the APR car on the sheet.

Also FYI you posted the wrong tq tag. You put APR twice.

Sorry, I’ll correct that later. Red is apr. blue is amd

The APR car was stock other than the supercharger.

Wasn’t the big reveal suppose to happen after this weekend? or are they still working on the tuning…