Intro and N2O questions

B6/7 S4/RS4
#301

I will say that in my first hand experience, the JHM tune is VASTLY superior to the APR tune , I don’t even know why APR bothers selling the a tune for the V8 (well aside from making money).

I also know that Unitronic has produced a tune… I would avoid that as well. My buddies RS4 had the Unitronic tune on it and he had some issues ( which I think were due to the tune being for 93 octane but we only have 91 octane locally) , he ended up putting the car back to stock and the problems went away. He has since sold the car.

I also agree that it is smart to wait a few thousand KM’s before putting a tune on the car to ensure that there are no problems with the swap.

#302

best advice in the thread.

JHM took 3 years and about $100,000 in research and tooling and scrapped blocks and labour into rebuilding 4.2 engines. Then they put about 100,000 miles on their own cars (RS4 and S4) with the built motor program blocks before selling 1 to the market.

I’d be hesitant to do anything to a rebuilt motor from a forum member. The exhaust (catless or at least pre-catless) is a great idea as it will help keep some of the heat out. But I wouldn’t tune jack shit until I felt really good about it. If the engine fails in 500 miles and you’re tuned, we just know the threads will go up about how ‘APR/JHM (whoever) blew my motor!’. Meanwhile the motor may have let go bone stock tune.

#303

And to quote from that thread:

[i]"Look, I don’t claim to be judge/jury/executioner by any means. But, lets be honest here. Your goal was pretty clear when you start with “Saki-just in case you want to buy something” when he mentions just a few posts above that the company would need to pay him thousands to put their exhaust on. You wanted to add more shit to a shit storm.

I just don’t get it. This site has the potential to be the best at delivering technical information on the platform but it appears that a bulk of the posts here are cross-posts to somewhere else with the intent to some how belittle (or sometimes compliment, but rarely) the other forum or poster’s view/knowledge. I just don’t see that as productive. Its actually destrucive IMO.

I guess i just try to abide by the golden rule…"[/i]

Its great you guys have such established opinions, and depth of knowledge, but maybe try and find a way to express that in such a way that doesn’t make you come off as complete assholes.

Im not some 17yr old who’s dad bought him his first A4, and im looking to tune it up and go race the neighborhood kids… Im 32, married (for now), and have been an active member of the community for the past several years. Before i moved to NYC 8 years ago, i used to be into jeeps… had a cherokee that i built with Detroit lockers, 4:88 gears and 36" bias-plys. I was heavily involved in an offroad club up in NE at the time. Now i am one of the principal people involved in organizing and working to build out the Avantoberfest cruises. My point being… Im not going anywhere, and i plan to continue to build this car out, and work to be involved in the community in bigger ways. Anybody that knows me, or has interacted with me from the Audi community, knows that i am not some punk looking to stir shit up.

Basically, if i say show me the facts, or if i challenge somebody on something… i am not trying to stir the pot, i am trying generate healthy discussion or debate. And i am trying to learn at the same time. Dont tell me so-and-so drove a 12.9 back in 2012 and then later drove a 12.89991 when he swapped a EBW exhaust on, and therefore its a worthless system… you must understand how crazy that sounds. And like i said before, the system may very well be completely inferior in every way to JHM’s… i am in no way saying thats not possible… i am just saying that points raised here seem to be coming from a long history of bitter arguments, more so than they are from actual data. At least thats my impression. The general vibe i receive (and i am not the only one) is that of a combative “f you for even mentioning EBW in here” attitude, rather than an outlay of informative opinions on the setup… its like kindergarten in here.

Euroswagger… i do appreciate the advice on the tune delay, and i will pass that along.

On the re-built lower… yes it was rebuilt by a non-professional… but the whole engine will be getting assembled and run through by professionals, and they will be standing by their work, just as they have for me in the past.

To some who have felt their opinions havent been heard or valued… thats never true. All opinions are valid, and taken into consideration. The only thing that is not appreciated is people basically telling me to fuck off because i havent already drank the kool-aid from the 2012 post that already explained why the EWB exhaust is shit. Oh… so sorry i didnt read every post that was made in every forum before mentioning what exhaust i ordered… really?

I am sure i will end up running into some you at events in the future, and i can only hope that we walk away with a better understanding that neither of us looking to do anything but have fun with this hobby, and take it up to the the next level for all involved.

Time for bourbon. Cheers

#304

Woodford Reserve, one hopes.

#305

Elijah Craig Barrel Proof!

#306

Well said sir, well said!!!

#307

Let me correct some stuff here.

-He will not be running a block that I rebuilt AS IS. That was one of the first things that came out of my mouth when JR took a look at the motor. While I was originally planning to run that in my own car so I obviously took extensive time assembling and measuring, there is no way for them to guarantee my work and he completely agreed. The motor was completely stripped, cleaned, crank polished all bearings and gaskets replaced etc.
-The motor that came from Autohaas was a running motor BUT the coolant pump flange and a few other parts on the drivers side were damaged in an accident. Basically the easiest method would be to replace the bottom half of the block instead of trying to weld some pieces etc.
-The motor he got from me was for parts, if they decide to rebuild it then great, but it will be fully taken apart and reinspected and rebuilt by RSworx.

As for motors and VIN numbers. Not there is not a VIN on the block, there is a serial number on them which obviously should be able to get traced back to the vin. That motor came from a car ending in 7N901595 and had 41K miles on it when I took it apart. The walls of the block look next to perfect. Again, it has nothing to do with FT, and idk where Saki comes up with his conclusions on connections/buddies/etc etc.

#308

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/30/eb722c12f209d19757adfde415fb059f.jpg

Where the autohaas motor was damaged

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/30/e265d89ea6273ee185cf61dab36d173c.jpg

What he needed from the motor I had. Motor was of no use to me if I sold just this to him, so he took the whole thing.

#309

read the fucking screen. I didn’t float this theory that it was a blown FT APR motor. BC Sniper did. When I looked at the path, it came through you, and you’re a buddy of his.

Is this that fucking hard?

#310

Here let me help you with your own advice

Ive met FT twice in a 2 year period at car events, while I have nothing against him, I don’t know anyone that would consider themselves buddies after exchanging some words at a car meet. So Ill leave this one here for you again, stick to the facts…right saki?

sorry to derail DSgray, excited to see this project come together and get back on the road.

#311

Good to know and like I said, I have confidence in your abilities and I know I trust myself to do a lot of things I’d never trust a professional shop to accomplish. I wasn’t aware of all the swapping of parts between two engines going on because the OP basically said “I have 2 engines, one has good heads, one has a good block”

Is anyone concerned about the upper half of the damaged block? I’d hope they are going to look through it and make sure the accident didn’t cause any stress or cracks on the top half.

Sorry if it comes of as pessimistic, but how much engine rebuild work does RSworx actually do? I personally took my BHF heads in for a rebuild from a reputable Audi Porsche Shop in NC…or so I thought. Only to have them hold my parts hostage for a few weeks saying they were looking everything over…then they dropped the bomb and made excuses that they couldn’t be rebuilt. I basically picked my motor up in fucking pieces and Tupperware bins and devised a plan to do the shit myself. After a trip to a good machine shop to have the heads cleaned and checked over I found out everything was fine. The only thing that really needed replaced was the valve stem seals. Oh, they also tried to blame my bad valve stem seals on the JHM tune.

#312

So you’re not a buddy of his? You’re facebook friends, instagram buddies, you came on this site defending his antics a couple of years ago…but now he’s just some stiff you saw at a car show?

lol

#313

Yea they rebuild/build motors/heads etc fairly regularly from what I have seen. Again I just am knowledgeable of my dealings with the block I sold and stopping in to see what other parts they needed. I don’t know the full plan here, mostly speculating based on my conversations with them.

I am?

Ken Block must be my buddy too! Can’t wait to stop in this winter when I’m in Utah

I came on this site when I bought my first S4, maybe I defended him for something at some point, I must have not put it in my “People who defend FT” cliff notes though.

Keep chasing those unicorns

#314

that’s what’s so funny. All I said was that it was an interesting theory, floated by BCsniper.

I didn’t say it was FT’s block. I didn’t call it a conspiracy. All I said was that it was an interesting theory, and that there’s an obvious connection between you and Flying Tomatoes.

Not sure why you’re not crying to BC sniper…but you’re trying WAY too hard to distance yourself from FT on this and to paint me as someone who is trying to arrest you for internet trickery. I frankly don’t give a fuck about you…I just thought it would be funny if Flying Tomatoes’ APR fried motor ended up in an AR member’s car. I don’t even know what car you drive or where you live. I know your mom has a Corvette, and you were working on swapping a 2.7T into a B67 chassis. That’s all I can remember…so don’t think I spend much time thinking about you. Someone pointed out a connection, and I thought it was interesting when you’re the link.

Anyway, why don’t you give us an update on your 2.7T project instead of crying in here. Much more interesting. Maybe you can set the new 8E 2.7T record at 14.48 or better.

#315

LOL typical Saki, argue, make claims, make no connections, tell the other person to stop crying. I really could care less if you think Im FT’s personal chofer, hell if I get to drive a supercharged RS4 everyday andget paid for it sure. Its more funny to watch you grasp at comments just to have the last word. Im sure you have an argument in another thread going on though that you can carry on with. Someone move this to the war room so you stop clogging up this guys thread.

#316

Dsgray bought 2 blocks. 1 of them came from 65vetteC6. The other came from another shop -> THIS is the one I was referring to. You were the one who jumped to the FT connection.

#317

The block with the accident damage to lower mounts was from Auto Haas. Did FT get in an accident recently? It sure doesnt appear so, unless he just keeps posting old photos to his instagram account… who knows.

#318

Why does it matter where the block came from?

#319

Seconded. If it’s good, who cares!!

#320

[quote=“BCsniper,post:316,topic:5833”]

Dsgray bought 2 blocks. 1 of them came from 65vetteC6. The other came from another shop -> THIS is the one I was referring to. You were the one who jumped to the FT connection.

Maybe you forget saying this…

Are you joking?