Totally agree primetime, whatever value is brought from audi roll cage installations and 8 thousand dollar bbk’s is completely negated by hall of fame level trolling in threads like this. How on earth the karma train doesn’t lead off to ban land is beyond me.
^^ ya he certainly has his supporters lurking around on here. every time i think he’s finally gone off the rails, some members reel him back in.
I give him a karma bump every now and then when he posts a good video or an insightful comment. Then it’s like he forgets to take his pills and it all goes to shit.
I have as well, but lately it’s been back to AZ-type west haha
Agreed… I even originally put before erasing a comment about how he can be helpful especially with the road race guys but goes off the deep end more often than not… It’s just getting old and it’s one thing to have an opinion but when you try to twist facts or make them up that’s just not good… Then when proven wrong he ignores it and posts something totally different…
lol. I do my fair share of head scratching sometimes too.
To be honest, I think Tesla (and Space X) are pretty interesting/cool companies. I’d like to see them succeed (especially the latter - since I want to see more space exploration).
But still, ease off on the kool aid ;D
http://cdn.newsbusters.org/images/2012/September/Kool-Aid.gif
It’s starting to turn almost into fanaticism.
In 50 years I’ll be 87. If I’m still here I’ll be lucky to know my name.
West - you have many lofty projections for Tesla, it’s quite comical. I personally don’t think they will exist by 2030. Elon Musk alone is a risk, sure he’s young but he isn’t guaranteed tomorrow.
Question: do you really think a median household considers buying 100k car to save 25k in fuel and 10k in maintenance over 10years?! Fuck the fuel and maintenance, a majority of humans don’t look past tomorrow.
Thanks for the entertainment West but you sir are confused.
your car came with teh same battery as his. In order to be a road race superstar, you bought a $1000 battery to save some sprung weight (in otherwords, you’re a moron) while rocking some ugly, cheap, heavy cast wheels.
what did you do with your old battery? Turn it into a tree? Oh, it’s in the landfill. Nice one.
So you are actually worse than everyone else’s Audi, battery wise.
You’re so myopic it’s laughable. I can’t fucking wait till you’re out of your 9 AR lives.
Looks like the new Model X will be $142,000 for the one that accelerates well. That’s after Tesla not paying tax…and after receiving government grants.
Incredibly stupid.
The BMW 330e looks interesting. It’s a 1.5L Mini Cooper turbo motor driving the front wheels, with an 8kw battery pack in the trunk to drive the rear wheels. That will let them torque vector, if programmed to be a sports car (it’s not).
Oddly I don’t trust BMW to actually have a replacement battery pack in 8 years. Tesla might charge them a lot of money for supplying it, or it might be an incompatible technology altogether. BMW is currently having problems with the starter batteries in their turbo V8 cars dying every 8 months, so they’re a mess when it comes to electronics.
The biggest risk to us is VW Group, MB and BMW get on the wrong side of history. Like Blackberry or Microsoft. It’ll be quite a fall.
I don’t think I should be banned from the Internet because I see a different future than some of you have considered. Lol. We can still tune our 10 year old Audis and waste gasoline like it’s 1999. I love spending $150 a day on gas at the track.
you should be banned because you do nothing but act obtusely to fit your own narcissistic view of your achievements. Your times sucked because your driving sucked. As a ‘benchmark’ you were completely crap.
If you don’t understand the impact of density altitude on an 80 degree California night on performance, you should stick to the Porsche forums where the 50+ crew like to talk about driving gloves rather than performance.
If you really think the 911 is the only German car to run in the 11s, that’s fine. But that is only because you’re completely obtuse and unable to take in information that may slap you in the face with the cold hard reality - which is that you suck at racing. You’re a shit driver. Your mom was wrong…you’re not a golden boy. You’re just another hamfisted fuck who sucks at changing gears. Nobody else is cheating. Nobody else is lying. You just suck at this. I watched your videos. We all did. Your shit times were your fault, because you’re terrible at it. Got it? Just because you suck, doesn’t mean a fucking thing for the rest of us. Go practice and get better…but don’t impart your version of acceleration onto the rest of us.
Once you come to grips with that, your reference point on performance will change. You won’t anchor everything based on what you saw with your own eyes on your own timeslip (very engineerish to only believe your own flawed experiment). You will realise what is reality, and you will be welcome to discuss it. But pretending or creating a new version of ‘reality’ to either make your shitty Tesla argument work…or to shield yourself from the scathing reality that you’re a shit driver is not welcome here, and your karma, repeatedly, reflects that.
Sakimono - one day you’ll learn that everyone else doesn’t need to suck for you to be great. Your anger is holding you back. On the Internet, no one knows you’re 6" tall (and a bully) but you have it in a marquee under every useless post you make on forums for cars you don’t own, drive, mod or most importantly take to the track. You even admitted you go to the 1/4 mile track less than I do but you’re an expert in aggregating others’ experiences from their Internet posts, which means you lack credulity. Pretty much everything you’ve said outside some of RS4 stuff I haven’t read is not valuable. That’s a small market of 700 cars and you’re a big shark so you need to swim over into B8 land and call into question the development of my own vehicle and talents for placing it around a road course.
And all the way from Canada, you can see the imminent failure of the best product innovation group in the 21st century. Impressive. “Total Tesla Model X pre-orders could be over 31,000”. It’s going to be fucking hilarious when an 8 passenger SUV beats you by 3 seconds at the strip, but they’re sold out for 12 months so save up or ask Her Majesty for a tax credit. If you can’t do the math, that’s $4.3 BILLION In preorders.
Since you and Lady Gaga live for the applause, I will give you +1 karma. You can value yourself however you want. Doesn’t that feel good?
The reply to the autoblog post you quoted couldn’t do the math either, and like the reply to that post, pre-orders on cars are not indicative of actual sales, especially in this case.
I had a friend preorder a model x to go with his p85. He thought it would be reasonably priced. Hearing that the top model x would be 142,000 us dollars meant probably 175,000 in Canada. That’s mental
He has since cancelled it.
West, I’m not sure why you think I’m 6" tall. I’m not. I’m 77.5" tall. The reason it is in my signature is a joke…that you somehow didn’t get. Are you jealous for some reason? You seem to think posting my height is bragging. That’s very strange.
I don’t think everyone sucks at driving. See the thing is I have a good a sense of what is what at the dragstrip. I have made about 200 passes in my S4 and RS4 and a few more in other people’s cars. I don’t think I’m great at it but I know I’m pretty good. I set the stock rs4 record so either
A) my track is 1300 feet long
Or
B) I’m doing OK
You? No we know you’re terrible. And about 39 people have told you so. Don’t project. You’re the one altering reality band ignoring the 100 different b8 s4 times we have that show a great cross section of what is possible. Do you heed that and learn?
No you’re a fucking idiot. You pretend nobody can run better than you unless they’re cheating or some miracle happens.
Not to mention that west has never, not once, directly responded to when I pointed him to our 1/4 mile database. It’s why I’ve said he’s intentionally being dense/obtuse.
The nicest thing I can say about the drag strip is, I like it better than autocross. I’ll give it another go and try to have a beginners mind. When I post my times and they don’t set records in the database, I’ll get trolled. I can say something like “a new 991 ran high 12’s that day” and that won’t matter. My car will be broken, my driving will “suck” even when my roll is under 2 seconds, and it will all be my fault for not clearing the world record and in fact being slower than a lot of stock S4’s on pump. In theory I should have one of the fastest S4’s at 3590 pounds on Revo 1+. Set a reasonable goal for me in terms of trap and ET. 12.4 at 112?
How about that Porsche Mission E with the dual motor 918 electric drive? Would be nice if they standardized on Tesla’s charging and kicked in a franchise fee (or sponsored stations) for the supercharger network.
I think a lot of the negitive feed back is that the REVO tune isnt well respected and lots of guys on here hate to see people get tunes from companys that just dont really support the platform or are not honest. Revo tunes dont have great results and I know some people dont like APR or GIAC but for the performance both of those are the top tunes and to keep the market to keep people honest guys point out the bad times with what is seen as a bad tune.
or thats my .02
I’ll just leave this here.
It’s the distribution model, the supercharger network, the service centers you don’t have to drive to, excellence in software and over the air “recalls”, and being the world’s lowest cost and highest volume battery supplier. Also supporting them is a low cost in house ERP system, equity compensation for most employees, and straight time overtime for some laborers (no healthcare and retirement liability). Thus far they don’t have a finance company and the bankruptcies associated with those for making loans at 0% for 6 years to people with 590 FICO scores.