Strictly speaking, everyone is rushing to convert to EV but they know it will take them 9 years and they don’t have a volume supplier for batteries. Tesla could probably help them but they’re also sold out and capacity constrained.
The roadster is an actual pre-production prototype with a sub 1.9 second 0-60 time. They haven’t even begun to optimize this or push the envelope in terms of development kits and higher trim levels. At this point they’re completely limited by tire traction. The plan is to create downforce at standing speed by using air-gas thrusters fed by an electric pump with a high PSI tank. That will allow coefficients of road friction higher than 1.3.
I have met with Hank Iroz a few times and drove his car. 9 second 1/4 mile isn’t free. Speed costs money in gasoline land. Maintenance money. But wow there’s nothing more fun than going 155 MPH on a track where my Audi barely cracked 120.
The Model 3 Performance could definitely go 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. All software limited. Got to protect P100D.
All interesting. Thats kinda what I was looking for info wise.
Again when I’m asking these questions they are strictly questions. I’m not leading with anything. These are some of the things that prevent me from careing about full electronic cars.
From the info I gathered. The battery tech is about at its limits. Not my words but the words of the companies that build that batteries and engeeners that are planning for the future. This makes sense due to how the periodic table works. there isn’t any room to go further. However do batteries really need to get much better to sustain the ele cars future.
Also the electronic grid now IMHO due to enviro freaks that are dumb as shit is at about peak capacity and with none of the plans including newclear power plants or even new power plants how can we expect to see a real support system for electronic cars. If you are right and while I don’t think you are I personally think petrol cars are here till the last drop of oil but… if in 9 years all new cars are electronic there is no power grid to support that and it would take longer than 9 years to upgrade the current infrastructure to support such a huge increase in demand of ele power.
Lastly from what the parts break down shows is that the model 3 isn’t restricted so much by software as it is by hard parts. IE the battery feeds. Now I havent measured them but the power transferr from the batteries can only be pushed so far via the battery cables if we can call them that. or the transferr system would be a better term. cars like the P1000 have a bigger power transferr system. Think of the size of the trasferr or cables like the size of an intake or exhaust. You need bigger thicker battery cables to push more electronic current. So in that regard and its more than just the software.
Jesus you’re ignorant or not smart. Or you read a ton of fake news and have no ability to sniff test what is real.
You really just need to go test drive a Model 3 at a store and then go back and read this stupidity. You’ll delete it. There’s no pressure to buy because they’re not salespeople. They’re just brand ambassadors who want you to drive the P100D or Model 3 Performance, to see if you like it.
There is no battery issue. Every company except Tesla has trouble managing battery draw, managing regen, managing aero, etc. So their range sucks. Tesla is pushing 400 miles of real world range now. Audi can barely crack 150 with the e-tron. They’re a fucking joke company that builds diesels and allocated no resources to EV. You can tell cause it sucks.
The electrical grid stuff is so stupid I don’t know where to begin. Let’s start with: we spend 4% of US national electricity to power GASOLINE REFINERIES. Yes, it takes a metric fuck ton of energy to crack a barrel of oil into gasoline, diesel, and other distillates. That energy ALONE could power every car and truck.
I have no idea what you mean by “upgrade the entire grid”. That’s a red herring and not necessary. The physical wiring is fine. The power plants are not running anywhere near capacity, in fact we’re retiring hundreds of power plants we don’t need. They could all just hum back to life. Or the remaining plants can run at higher capacity. Electric cars mostly charge at night when the national system is idle. You have no clue how little energy it takes to move a car with battery power. It’s really 1/10th of a Prius to move my car LAMBO fast.
The wiring stuff is the dumbest thing you’ve ever written. The cable is not running to hot. Stupid modder idea nobody with a brain has actually had. The cabling is not running hot, and it’s correct. The Model 3 has much larger cabling than Model S only for ultra high speed charging. Discharge to the motor is fine. Model 3 Performance has QC tested inverters which are guaranteed to handle the load of the motor. They can keep pushing the fleet envelope as reliablity data comes in. 0-60 in 2.9 is coming.
Did tuning your S4 ruin it?
Tell me the stock 0-60 and quarter mile times for the P3D and RS3.
How about the quarter mile an a tuned RS3?
And the quarter mile on a turbo upgraded RS3?
I guess the RS3 is a luxory car, whereas the P3D is a basic stripped car with an iPad so no competition there.
Are there any P3Ds with a million miles?
Any Tesla’s with a million miles with no major costly repair / service?
Do you routinely hang out in your P3D rear seats or get driven around to enjoy all the interior room?
The Tesla modding has not begun yet. Tesla has not built a ground up performance car yet. This is just fitting 2 motors to a basic sedan body. Change the gear ratio from 7.5:1 fixed to something else and you probably could run 10 second quarter miles. The new roadster will run 7 second quarter miles.
tesla had the jump as all three cars didnt even start giving it a huge 0.3-0.5 sec head start which is massive for a tesla.
My car is faster than all those stock cars
No, C63s still beat it in the end despite the tesla’s jump. I know your reading comprehension is shit, but I know your viewing comprehension is shit as well.
My tesla shitting was from 50mph +…not from a stop. Tesla stomps on the pedal and im going form 3500 rpm…
You’re making shit up again. The Tesla is lightning fast until wind resistance takes over. So more like 95 MPH rather than 50 MPH. There’s no air resistance at 50. Only then do caveman cars have an advantage.
BTW, Tesla now includes Ludicrous mode for free in the Model S/X Performance. So for $99k you can go 0-60 in 2.3 seconds every day for the rest of your life. No other car can do this.
BTW 2, they lowered the price on Ludicrous because they are switching from a 2 motor car to a 3 motor car with independent motors on each rear wheel. Not only will this provide torque vectoring for the track, but it will be a lot faster 0-60 and 0-120. Maybe 2.1 seconds.
A stock Model 3 just did the quarter mile in 11.4 seconds. It’s getting faster, and it’s all through free software updates.
It’s really pathetic that a performance electric of 2019 cant keep up with my 10 year old caveman power plant.
Just wrecked a C63S on the same stretch of freeway just as bad as the P3D. Best bang for the buck right now is the TT-RS / RS3, upgrade those turbos you’re in modern hyper car territory running 9s shitting on all tesla’s made today, and looks 9999 times better than a P3D.
Nice kill.
The 2.5 motor is incredible. As mentioned above and I didn’t want to argue with west as it became clear he didn’t know what he was talking about from a mechanical / electronic stand point. But the electronic cars are impressive there is room to grow but your very limited today and I think for a while. As someone who dosen’t just blindly love any kind of car you tend to really think things through.
Now with 10 speed transmissions better manufacturing tech and precision even a typical blaa car of today is better than some sports cars of 30 or even 25 years ago.
Even if Tesla makes a 9 second car. Ok thats great but again its not something that isn’t already achievable if you want to do that to your mustang RS3 or standard sports car.
Its so funny to see the blind electric car guys… OH THE MODEL this or that just hit 11.X… ok great welcome to the performance of gas powered cars like 30+ years ago.
Yeah, an Iroz TT-RS is cool. Not exactly California emissions legal. But so is a modded EV that goes 0-60 in 2.2 seconds.
Again, nearly every consumer is fine with winning every 0-120MPH race and having 1 millisecond reaction time launches. Very few people need that 1/2 mile time.
Thanks, those big N/A engines really suffer at 7k ft altitude lol
Yes, I have really been looking at them lately but I still enjoy my car. Agreed, It is hilarious when Tesla guys talk about 1/4 mile times : They need to stick to the 0-60 times
They need to stick to the 0-60 times