I think we can agree that we disagree on this topic lol.
I normally don’t follow too closely on things like this but this is pretty fucked up. Probably going to turn into the next Ferguson. I would hope the cop gets convicted on this one…
If he was a dummy and shot someone, he damn well should.
Write different to someone trying to wrestle the cops gun away from him and kill him
^ LOL, that’s great.
Balitome under state of emergency
It’s unreal to listen to the “protesters” cite this being an effect from years and even decades of police violence, brutality, and the “system” causing black deaths. I’d find it very interesting to see the statistic of black on black deaths vs black deaths at the hands of police (even in cases when lethal force was warranted, ie shootout etc). Not justifying what has transpired, but this reaction is beyond belief.
I just can’t understand this mindset. Burning down a CVS in their own community that provided jobs and convenience of supplies to many local people, and even slashing the fire hose of the fire fighters trying to put out the flames is beyond comprehension.
Truly sad.
Good. Needs more of that. 
Lol
What happened with this guy they’re rioting about? He got paralysed while being driven in a paddy wagon?
How the fuck does that happen?
Saw claims / reports of “rough ride” where basically suspect is placed in back cuffed but unrestrained. Slam on brakes, accelerate fast, high speed turns, etc…regardless it appears he died due to the his handling and under police custody. He looked pretty effed up already when he was first being placed in the back of the wagon. Overall very sad situation imo.
in the report they stopped a couple of times. Maybe he was yelling at them or something and they stopped and gave him a beat down. And caused his paralysis.
Haven’t read the details but just heard bits here and there.
Three sides to many of these stories. He said, they said, the truth…makes situations tough to weave through
I fully agree it’s extremely sad. They were vandalizing and burning down community shops and stores.
Ultimately, it’s called rage and anger and losing sight of the bigger picture. It’s very human unfortunately. Both psychologically, emotionally and physically. Basically, this amount of rage and anger isn’t caused by one single incident. It’s caused by a build-up. Lack of jobs, lack of respect, lack of opportunity, lack of many many things (in the eye of the individual).
Just like a single event might trigger a war between two nations or a civil war or a revolution, it’s not that single event that is the root cause. It’s just the trigger. If you analyze most wars and revolutions, tension was built up for years and years until one single event sparked a blow out. It’s the same here. The man’s death is just a spark. There’s been anger brewing for a while. And when it blows up, be it a country in war or a population rioting, the anger takes over all logic and rationale. It’s not pretty but it’s also not surprising. At least it isn’t to me.
And one can argue all they want whether a certain population is indeed oppressed or not. In the end, it doesn’t matter. A person’s perception, to them, is their own reality. If a person or population feels oppressed, then to them, they are being oppressed.
Also, I’ve noticed that riots. revolutions, rebellions, etc. are triggered when the perception is that the cost of a revolution (or rebellion or riots) is less than the cost of doing nothing. That’s why it builds up over time.
At least that’s my own observation from having studied history.
I believe like you Axel, that it is a build up of inequality within these communities. And while I don’t agree with how the residents of Ferguson and now Baltimore are demonstrating their weariness of public officials and more so the police departments, the enforcement system within our country definitely needs to be looked at. Both sides are feeling alienated from the rest of the population, officers feel like it is them against the society, society feels like there is no true checks and balance of these police forces, and politicians…oh who knows how they feel other then damage control, public perception and make sure to protect their special interest constituents.
What would truly be helpful, is if some of these people realized that voter apathy is a lot of the problem behind this. Here we have a country that gives some of the greatest chances to elevate yourself out of your current societal position. This has been provided on the backs of many soldiers, activists, and stand up people but a lot have people have either forgot or take it for granted. I know in my area, our voter turn out was right around ~22%, which quite a few measures/bills were passed that are very unfavorable to the population as a whole but because so few voters turned out, these measures/bills passed extremely easy. Had more people shown up, there is very little chance these things would gone through. I would imagine if we were to see the voter turn outs in these areas, I would bet there is low turn out, which makes it feel like only certain groups are getting their needs met by the political system. I can understand the frustration on the residents side, but destroying your community is moronic, which I would consider shitting where you eat, makes for a stinky meal, at the least.
I get the anger over this situation. Sounds like a criminal got a death sentence by a couple of police officers whether that was by car accident, negligence, or unmitigated extreme violence against a prisoner. That’s never going to end well.
It’s not like Mike Brown who was actively trying to murder a police officer and was killed when the officer (legally) defended himself. For that situation I have ZERO empathy for the angry crowds. They just didn’t read the fucking evidence.
Still though, I don’t get burning down your own community. It’s almost funny.
“WE WILL SHOW THEM! WE WILL MAKE OUR SHIT NEIGHBOURHOOD AND OUR SHIT LIVES EVEN WORSE FOR OURSELVES!”
Mike Brown’s step-father’s famous chant to the ready-to-riot crowd after hearing the grand jury (of blacks and whites who actually read the evidence) found no grounds for an indictment.
‘burn this mother down’ he yelled from atop a car
Translation:
“My step-son tried to kill a cop to avoid arrest on a robbery, but the cop prevailed and killed my step-son instead…so let’s burn down Ferguson!”
So fucking backwards.
It is backwards. It’s adults acting like kids because something didn’t go that well. The oppression argument is bullshit. I see dozens on dozens of other broke ethnically challenged groups make it out of poverty with 3 jobs while trying to go to college. Oppression is am excuse for the lazy. I’m not saying it can’t happen but taking the effort to loot the only store that took the chance to try and help your neighborhood rather then taking that effort to go work another job shows just how stupid these people are.
There are I’m guessing hundreds and hundreds of people b that get arrested each day. If the people just shut up and follow directions these things seem to not happen to them. Breaking the law already puts you in a bad light.
I think the family dynamic and ultimate lack there of plays a huge role in plight of the “oppressed”. And I do not 100% discount the notion and reality of oppression. I do tend to believe the issues are more a product of a break down of internal community values rather than societal and system failures.
Very much part of it.
Not sure what is funnier
1 her beating her kid down on TV
2 everyone calling her mother of the year
If she was mother of the year her son wouldn’t be rioting and looting in the first place
Wow. . . funny how things come to light.
I was thinking about it yesterday, just how small of a percentage of the entire US population is ever arrested, and then even how much smaller percent of the population is arrested multiple times (much less in the double digit number of times).