Try slipping the clutch a little more? Dumping and bogging/chirping and bogging/spinning is not going to get you to the 60’ fastest. The best launches I ever had were quick slips from around 4500rpm and produced many low 1.8 60’s (N/A car, same concept though). All your launches are so aggressive it almost looks like you’re just side stepping the clutch.
EXACTLY. I went to the track with Rider and his JHM stage 1 S4 the past weekend. He quick slipped the clutch and brought his time down from 12.6 to 12.3@117
I’m able to get 1.8 60 with my automatic and Im leaving at about 2200rpms so its all about not shocking the tires too much.
Looks awesome. I’ve heard these really,work on merc v12tt motors. With th tight space and heat, this is going to allow you to go very low and consistently. What is the capacity? Could you add a chiller to an NA car and somehow cool the intake charge?
Looks awesome. I’ve heard these really,work on merc v12tt motors. With th tight space and heat, this is going to allow you to go very low and consistently. What is the capacity? Could you add a chiller to an NA car and somehow cool the intake charge?
The Mercedes guys really like the Killer Chiller setup from all the reviews that I saw. They tend to run like a five gallon capacity tank in the trunk for their intercooler water setup though. So it takes like five minutes for the intercooler water to get back down to temperature according to Joe at Kincaid Performance. Actually there is a local guy that has a CLK55 AMG I think and he said that he was one of the first to put a tank in the trunk. Don’t know if he has the Killer Chiller setup or not though.
My intercooler system uses like two gallons or slightly more for the capacity so it heats up and cools back down pretty quick. When I talked with Joe at Kincaid Performance, he told me that somewhere between two to three gallons is ideal for the best reserve capacity while making a pass/hit/whatever and then the quickest recovery/cooling back down time afterwards. Only time will tell for how well it works for me though. Need more time to play with the car.
In theory you could put an air to water intercooler style system on a NA car but you would have to find a way to mount a heat exchanger in the path of the intake air. While getting my intercooler system and Killer Chiller setup ready to be installed I saw a local guy with an early 5.0 liter Gallardo and he had a custom intake manifold that looked like reverse headers with an X pipe built in to compliment his custom exhaust headers and exhaust with an X pipe. I was like damn that would be perfect to put a heat exchanger right where that intake X pipe is and cool off the intake air temps because heat soak is a bitch!
Pretty sure that Loe runs some sort of the AWE/Killer Chiller setup/configuration on his car too.
The Mercedes guys really like the Killer Chiller setup from all the reviews that I saw. They tend to run like a five gallon capacity tank in the trunk for their intercooler water setup though. So it takes like five minutes for the intercooler water to get back down to temperature according to Joe at Kincaid Performance. Actually there is a local guy that has a CLK55 AMG I think and he said that he was one of the first to put a tank in the trunk. Don’t know if he has the Killer Chiller setup or not though.
My intercooler system uses like two gallons or slightly more for the capacity so it heats up and cools back down pretty quick. When I talked with Joe at Kincaid Performance, he told me that somewhere between two to three gallons is ideal for the best reserve capacity while making a pass/hit/whatever and then the quickest recovery/cooling back down time afterwards. Only time will tell for how well it works for me though. Need more time to play with the car.
In theory you could put an air to water intercooler style system on a NA car but you would have to find a way to mount a heat exchanger in the path of the intake air. While getting my intercooler system and Killer Chiller setup ready to be installed I saw a local guy with an early 5.0 liter Gallardo and he had a custom intake manifold that looked like reverse headers with an X pipe built in to compliment his custom exhaust headers and exhaust with an X pipe. I was like damn that would be perfect to put a heat exchanger right where that intake X pipe is and cool off the intake air temps because heat soak is a bitch!
Pretty sure that Loe runs some sort of the AWE/Killer Chiller setup/configuration on his car too.
[quote]Give me some more time and I can get the Killer Chiller information put together for you guys too.
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Looking good Jimmy, would love to see the install details on the Chiller setup as well as your feedback and experience with the kit, please do share when you have time!!
Don’t egg on my crazy questions/ideas, I think you are on to something, whether it is worth it to engineer on a big NA motor prone to heat soak may require some testing :-p then again, completely different, but probably more gains on a water/meth injection system.
I just hate the thought of mixing and adding ever so often. In theory its like the maint of running adblue tank just runs out much quicker. If the m4 GTS can do it from the factory I guess there is merit to doing it aftermarket though.
Looking good Jimmy, would love to see the install details on the Chiller setup as well as your feedback and experience with the kit, please do share when you have time!!
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I have everything installed for the Killer Chiller setup and it was working shortly until my high side AC line blew off. Originally the factory Audi high side line is 5/16" ID but my JHM modified line for the supercharger kit is a 13/32" ID. I had jerry-rigged a fitting and line to work but it didn’t hold so I am waiting to receive the correct size T fitting and line to do this correctly. Joe at Kincaid Performance has told me that it shipped out so as soon as I get it then I can throw it in really fast and get more data to share. It is to be expected that there will be these little holdups with a custom project like this.
Why not embrace the crazy ideas sometimes if you can actually make it work. There is a good video by CT Fletcher that I have been seeing lately that puts to words what I have thought for a long time. “I am going to keep doing what I want to until they pour dirt on top of me.”
Back on topic, I have considered using water injection on my S4 to get the intake temps down. Notice I said water injection and not water/meth injection. Water/meth injection is ok when used correctly but it causes issues with my S4. However I would want to run the water injection a very specific way because I don’t like the way that most people do it. Most people put a nozzle before the throttle body. Kind of like an old fashioned cheap and easy nitrous injection. Instead I would want to run direct plate style water injection to get as even flow and cooling as possible. Then I would likely have to mount a tank in the trunk because there is no more room in the engine compartment. To be totally honest though at that point I would just rather run nitrous instead but the stock S4 block can’t handle that. Currently though the intercooler kit with the KC unit should be more than sufficient on my car for the time being. It will be very interesting to see how my car responds to going to stage 2 SC at some point long down the road.
[quote]Give me some more time and I can get the Killer Chiller information put together for you guys too.
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Looking good Jimmy, would love to see the install details on the Chiller setup as well as your feedback and experience with the kit, please do share when you have time!!
Don’t egg on my crazy questions/ideas, I think you are on to something, whether it is worth it to engineer on a big NA motor prone to heat soak may require some testing :-p then again, completely different, but probably more gains on a water/meth injection system.
I just hate the thought of mixing and adding ever so often. In theory its like the maint of running adblue tank just runs out much quicker. If the m4 GTS can do it from the factory I guess there is merit to doing it aftermarket though.