Yowza! LWFW/clutch for under $1000??? I don’t even own a manual and I find that exciting! This is all good motivation for me to start saving money ;D I’m interested to know more about what you discovered with the mounts, as I bought a cheap pair awhile ago but haven’t tried putting them in, maybe they don’t even fit lol.
Finally 
I’m definitely looking forward to the downpipes and tune. But I guess I should probably check my maintenance first… : 
in for track times
X2. . . I kept reading expecting to see some slips after all that talk Keaton. Lets see the info!
There will probably be a JHM style video that reveals the timeslips.
Would be good to find, in advance, the fastest ever 1.8T 1/4 mile times for:
stage 0 (Stock)
stage 1 (tuned)
stage 2 (tune + bolt ons)
stage 3 (K04)
stage 3+ (Big turbo)
Not a range…the fastest.
Then when the 3.0 info drops, it will be easy to compare to the 1.8T cars. You guys should starta thread on AZ seeking the fastest of each stage 1.8T cars…get some discussion…and the forum will benchmark everything based on that. Get it done well before JHM announces this time (soon, so don’t delay).
Then when a time from a JHM 3.0 car drops on the scene, it will be instantly comparable, rather than a bunch of bitches saying ‘that’s not fast…I could have done that if I didn’t have a boost leak’ or ‘many stage X 1.8T cars are faster than that’ blah blah blah. You can say 'no they’re not. Look (and link the 1.8T results thread).
yeah, I meant on Audizine. That way everyone on Audizine reads it and contributes to it. Then it’s accepted as ‘fact’.
Then when JHM drops their 3.0 video, it will have meaning. Finding the information here, then saying ‘this 3.0 is fast…look…a bunch of 3.0 guys on audirevolution said these are the fastest 1/4 mile 1.8T times’.
Holds zero water. Can you imagine me starting a ‘any vids of stage II 2.7T cars beating 4.2’ thread here, then saying I’m faster than stage II B5 S4s because nobody posted anything fast here? It would be a joke. That’s why you start the thread and let the 1.8T guys fill it with info. Then when you show them 3.0 results, it’s up against the 1.8T guys’ own claims about what is fastest. Hard for them to backtrack.
p.s. 2 years ago I started just such a stage II B5 thread by the way…on Qfail B5 and AZ B5…and when they were unable to post videos of stage II B5 S4s beating B6/7 S4s, it really woke them the fuck up to the fact that the 4.2 cars are much faster than they thought. You have to do it, otherwise the ‘forum legends’ are just told over and over and over…without any facts.
^ahhhhh gotcha!
And yes. . . .I remember that going down in the B6/7 world back then. It was very interesting, even the B6/7 guys were sure that a stgII B5 would smoke the B6/7.
yup
and ever since that discussion with the B5 guys, they hated me even more for pointing out inconvenient truths, but they never tried that ‘stage I or II B5 will walk a B6’ shit ever since. That used to be the ‘norm’. Now it’s a blown up myth. Only the most aggressive, fan-blade-bending tuned B5 guys can keep up with/beat a B6/7. The rest are low 14 second cars.
I know what you mean, I think Keaton got tired of typing and wanted to go home. Either that or they like to keep us all in suspense.
I know this isn’t going to make things any better but keaton really went threw hell for all this testing. He had like 50 parts on his car and he was just beat up for data every step of the way.
I just want to keep this in perspective. The 3.0 is a hard nut to crack. Lets keep in mind that for the 1.8T it takes a 30+hp chip and full exhaust with no cats a different intercooler and in most cases a bigger turbo just to get into the mid 15 range. Both cars start off at about the 16.4 range. So a full second is a lot of work. The good part is a full second is also a big difference.
Needless to say. I smell a video teaser sometime late late in the next few nights
And that’s why we love Keaton and you to count - no homo lol
It’s crazy how much more power you need to put in a car to take a full second of your time in such a short distance. I guess that’s why it is the best place to proove the platform.
Can’t wait for the videos
I thought the 6spds were low 15’s stock?
Hey Guys -
Thanks for all of the interest so far. I wanted to get on here quickly before the holiday and leave you guys with a little more information, JHM-style. I thought this was an especially timely post based on all of the recent talk regarding the exhaust manifolds AND the arrival Lout Jnr’s motor. (By the way, Lout, Congrats! I saw your email come in and I will try to coordinate with everyone here to get back to you next week!)
The exhaust manifolds on these cars were one of the FIRST items we looked at when we started planning out our downpipe and exhaust system for this car. Based on what everyone has been discovering about their manifolds recently, we’ve realized that we were fortunate that my car had these smaller manifolds so we could research a solution and test it for everyone with a 3 Liter. Just like the “Zingo Mod” and sealing off the resonator at the MAF hose, this is another FREE power adder that we’ve gotten real results out of. We spend a lot of time looking for easy and free ways to improve the performance of this car that seems to have been corked from the factory. We want your cars to be FAST!
So, all you’ll need to do transform those small manifolds is a Dremel tool. Take off your downpipes and start grinding! It took us 20 minutes to open up the outlet of the manifolds by a little over a quarter of an inch. All you have to do is work the Dremel evenly around the opening and make sure that you create a nice, smooth outlet. Opening the mouth of the collector in this way greatly increases the airflow and will give your car’s exhaust note a deeper tone while adding a little more bass to it. Based on the airflow calculations our calibrator ran, this is an excellent modification to be done to these parts and turns what we all thought was a negative into a positive.
Here are a few pictures comparing the stock outlets that I had, un-modified to the stock outlets after we widened them out.
OEM Outlet:
http://audirevolution.net/addons/albums/images/264080775.jpg
JHM-Modified Outlet:
http://audirevolution.net/addons/albums/images/922404753.jpg
This easy and FREE modification works REALLY well when paired with a properly sized set of 2.5 inch downpipes and exhaust (and a properly calibrated tune). The outlets of those manifolds are a restriction but it didn’t take long for us to open them up to the right size to allow for proper airflow.
We’ve always tried to follow a very specific formula when we start out modifying a car. We didn’t just want to make parts for these cars for the sake of making and selling parts, we wanted to make parts that all worked together towards a final goal. Following this formula, we’ve designed our tune to take advantage of this manifold modification. Cars with this modification will flow much more air than stock - especially if you put on 2.5 inch downpipes and a 2.5 inch exhaust - but the stock ECU calibration won’t be able to do anything with that airflow. With the JHM tune, you’ll be able to get the maximum performance out of your 3 Liter since the tune will adapt up to the increases in airflow.
That’s all for now. I gotta get on the road for the holidays! Have a great weekend and feel free to contact us if you have any questions about performing this modification!
Based on our research into various performance archives and our intense real world research, stock 3 Liter cars are more like a low 16 second car - manual or automatic. I drove the crap out of mine at the track and barely squeaked out a 16.0. Dragtimes.com has a 3 Liter listed as going 15.8 but I don’t know how valid that entry is. There isn’t very much information associated with it.
You should try taking your car to the track. It’s a great experience and it really makes you aware of the differences between a 16 second car and a 15 second car, a 15 second car and 14 second car, etc… etc… The faster you go, the harder it is to go faster!
By most accounts, the 3 liter is a slow car going down the track. But in my first run with it, I was really surprised by how quickly the run went. Take your car out sometime, it’s a great way to learn more about the limits of your car and see how it stacks up to the competition all in a safe and controlled environment. You can’t argue with a time-slip!
More updates soon guys!
Thanks Keaton, I am stoked - look forward to speaking with you next week.
My brother and I were wondering what manifolds you got, we laughed and said it would be funny if you got the dodgy ones…turns out you did.
Looks like the dremel came to the rescue yet a again, so is this the ‘Keaton Mod’ - btw your pictures of the before and after are not there.
Hope you have a safe and fun holidays.
So, getting pushy here…When can we expect to be able to purchase these parts (Flywheel, Clutch, Tune, spacer), and is there an estimated cost yet?
I have the dreaded vibration that is possibly the flywheel that needs replaced, clutch is going, and I’m getting the CEL for bad cats, both sides. Its bad enough that I’m letting my Audi sit in the garage while I drive my mothers 93 Mercury Sable… >:(. And I suppose that if I am going to be throwing a couple grand into it, i might has well get the shifter as well, right? but I’m ready NOW, cash in hand!! I cant wait much longer, your going to force me to go somewhere else… :’(
Gret idea to open up the mouth of the exhaust manifolds. The mouth of the exhuat manifold on the 3.0 looks to also be part of the collector. Opening the mouth by a Quarter inch man that really is going to help the performance and tone.
I would have to think that is going to be a great addition in the free modifacation catigory. A large amount of power is made and lost.
After seeing how dodgy the bad manifold is are you guys going to be looking into long tube headers
Im sure they could sell you that stuff now, being that they have tested the parts and the tune. Contact them directly through Sales@jhmotorsports.com
They will get you hooked up.