Go find your timeslip and post it up. We’re still waiting.
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give us 1/4 mile times! Thats “PROVEN” gains!
You cant sand bag on the 1/4 mile track with slips and lie about it!
Cant say the same on a dyno!
Would you rather see quarter mile times with the exhaust on my car which has most of the modifications the JHM shop car has? Or would you rather see it on a stock car? It is a long drive to the track, so I would probably want to just do it on one car only. Maybe I can get JHM to flash me a tune first so it will be identical to the shop car 
id say get it on a stock car.
12.75 is the time to beat! ;D
Is there any record of a car with only JHM exhaust and nothing else? If we compare to that time, that would be best.
he was talking to Swesna, Ben. Swesna was flapping his gums on the previous page about running mid-12s in his RS4. Then when pressed to show the timeslip, he clammed right up about it. He didn’t realise that you can’t post on forums about a quarter mile time and then not show the slip.
As for your exhaust, sure put it on your car, load up the JHM 91 tune, then hit Sacramento or whatever strip you want. It’ll be neat to see what you can do compared to Dan’s 12.29 on 91 and the basic 91 tune. For that matter, why don’t you drive up to meet with Mick when he runs his car in the next couple of weeks. Then we can see what your car does vs. his. Mick’s quarter mile times haven’t been awesome so that’s maybe not a great benchmark for the JHM parts, but if you guys do a pull in 3rd or something it would be interesting to see what’s happening.
Yeah, that would be a good idea. I think there will be a big difference between me an mick mainly based on weight. Perhaps we can weigh both cars down equaly and see how it ends up.
Do you know which version of the tune Dan was running? Probably won’t make too much of a difference between versions.
Really? From photos, I thought you guys were about equal.
You each need jockeys to drive your cars to truely reflect what’s what.
Dan was running the regular old cali 91 shitbox tune. I only know because I was at the strip the same day (here in Canada) and he was bbming me after every run with an update on his times, all of which included him bitching about having to run the 91 tune and 91 gas…and cursing the fuck out of VAST.
Well, the two of us might be around the same weight, but his car is like 400lbs lighter which is very big for performance.
Just have a passenger or two in micks car to equalize the weight
ah I see.
However his car is nowhere near 400 lbs lighter than yours. Last time I looked he had a bunch of things removed but mostly superficial stuff. Around 200-250 lbs lighter than stock. Your car has a lightweight exhaust (-20), LW battery (-30) and I’m sure a couple of other little bits that help. The difference is probably 150 lbs. Easily fixed with 2 or 3 sandbags from Home depot.
I think he was looking at pulling his backseat for the strip, but remind him that this is an Audi Rs4 and the whole point of the car is that it’s a killer car with 4 seats. Leave the seats in…everyone else does. The only seats removed times on the quarter mile chart are APR’s 11.8 RS4 time (which we all made fun of them for pulling the seats) and 91GL’s 11.9 B6 S4 time but he had turned it into a purposebuilt lightweight race car…as well as a couple of B5 S4 times from years ago.
Audi = full interior
Some of us race with an EXTRA seat! ;D
should add that to my mod list on the 1/4 mile times!
why? did you have a baby seat in?
Funny the fastest full weight B6 S4 was extra weight - jaybquick’s babyseat 11.9…and the fastest RS4 time was also full weight + babyseat (dannyrs4/ttsrs4) ran 11.41 @ 125 with his baby seat still in 
yeah both times i had the baby seat in.
Those things are a motherfucker to put in! The only time im taking it out is when little S doesnt need it anymore.
I am 418lbs under stock, Ben would have to check his weight savings items and let us know where he is to compare. As far as running with or without seats, who cares? I have done plenty of runs in many configs. I am choosing to run in lightweight mode, as that is how I will run on lapping events. I am not selling any items like APR so I am not concerned about “number padding”. BTW I always here the saying, from you guys specifically: “Run what you brung”. And to your statement “the point of the car is its a killer car with 4 seats”, I take issue with that. The point of the car, or any car, is that the user does with it what they like. I don;t see people bitching about the Vitesse program RS4 that weighed 3000lbs and was using stock engine. That car was stripped down. The Beauty of my car is that while being at 3500lbs for track use, its a simple seat swap and wheel change and I am daily driver again. Literally 2 hours to go from track ready to daily driver. I have full stereo with sub and amp, stock interior, and a ride that, while a bit stiffer than stock, is still to me acceptable for daily driving. The only creature comforts I am lacking when in daily driving mode are the sunroof and the touchier shifting due to LWFW, Clutch, LWCP. And I am a bit loud, but I could always throw the cats in and reduce that. but I kind of like running around with test pipes.
Here is a listing of the items I have changed to redue the weight of my car:
[i]Here is a list of items I have already put in place, and Ben and I are working on a few other options that could save some more:
Alcon Brakes: -24lbs
Stasis MS: -23lbs (16 front and 7 rear)
Remove Headlight washer system: -6lbs
LW Flywheel: -13
LW Crank Pulley: -7
LW Wheels and tires: Mine are -11lbs per corner (22lbs total front)
Full Secondary Air Injection Removed: -16lbs
Aux Radiator Delete: -4lbs
Thats 108lbs off the front of the car.
Now for the rear:
LW Wheels and tires: -11lbs per corner (22lbs total rear)
DRC Reservoirs and lines: -7
LW Battery Kit: -33
Mid pipe back exhaust: -15lbs
Bose and Sirius junk: -8lbs
JHM LW Rear Rotors: -6lbs
Thats 90lbs off the rear
Now for the middle of the car:
Front seats: -75lbs for Status seats
Rear Seats: -75lbs
Exhaust DP’s to mid pipe: -20lbs
Sunroof Delete: -48lbs
Carbon Fiber B Pillers: -2lbs
So thats another 220lbs out of the center of the car. Maybe slightly biased towards the rear.
In the end, removing all of this weight ends up with a total loss of ~418lbs, 40lbs short of my target of 3500lbs. As you can see, the distribution of weight loss is pretty even. there is a slight bias towards less in the rear, but not enough to change the overall balance of the car off the original 59/41 factory setup by more than .5%.[/i]
That’s a pretty cool statistic. 11 sec Audi’s on pump gas masquerading as family cars. Or the other way round.
Audi’s at the track deffo = full interior. Although I think saki’s claim to have a 12 sec car that seats 4 comfortably is somewhat far fetched - I wouldn’t want to be sat behind him on any journey j/k
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4239/sakiseat.png
Peg Perego FTW. Quick snaps in and out of the Golf. Haven’t tried the S4 yet though.
On your point about JHM tune being JHM tune, thats false. A Box is a far more developed tune right now, and my J box is a mild tune in comparison. JHM not only has A Box, F Box, J Box tunes, they have versions of these, from V6, V7, V8, and VR, and a few others sprinkled in there. Currently a J Box V7 tune is not the same as an A Box V7 tune. Awesome runs at the strip by George were done on a 94 octane A box VR tune. My 13.0 110mph was done at the strip with a 91 Octane V6 J Box Tune. My subsequent 13.0 run at 107.x mph was a less pingy 91 octane J Box V7 tune. I am waiting on a J Box 94 octane VR tune which will make a significant difference in the car’s performance. And I am hoping that the VR on J Box is as powerful as the A Box VR tune. Right now J Box is lagging in performance because as I understand it from their tuner, J Box had a significant file rewrite. They can’t just drop in the A box programming.
1. do you mean without the back seats? i.e. you’re going to pull them for the strip, but not for DD? I was assuming you had seats in and based my estimation on that…but are you saying 418 lbs down without them? So with them in you’re probably about 325 lbs lighter than stock, and ben is probably 75 lbs lighter, so it’s about 250 or so lbs difference. That’s 4 sandbags from home depot if you guys want to do a roll race and see how you stack up against each other. Remembver this started when Ben and I mentioned maybe you two hitting the strip together.
2. I do. I think it’s very un-Audi-like. I told them same thing to Keith@APR. I told the same thing to 91GL. I don’t think I’m alone on that sentiment, nor do I think you are alone in yours. Just saying.
3. I think Audi’s point of the RS4 was a car that is great to look at, has a little luxury, goes fast, stops nice, turns nice…all while having the ability to carry a family of 4 and their luggage. What you described (it’s whatever the owner wants’) is not a description of the purpose of the car…it’s a description of your purpose for the car. I’m just forcing my opinion on the pulling the back seats thing. I’m all for creative weight loss, but to me ripping seats out of a 4 door sedan crosses that line. I’m just thinking out loud here…i.e. as a guy who owns an RS4 and as a guy who runs a quartermile list. Pulling the seats makes me cringe. We all know these aren’t purpose built drag cars (or road course cars at 60% nose weight) so it kind of seems weird to strip them down. Again, I was 91GL’s biggest opponent on going that extreme with his B6 so don’t feel that I’ve specially targeted you on this.
With respect to that Audi race car, you’re right…but none of us (and I mean none of us) compare our car to that, so that’s why we don’t give a fuck about how stripped it was. It wasn’t a representation of what the RS4s we own (i.e. regular humans, not Audi race teams) are like, so the car is kind of irrelevant (just as the DTM Audi A5 V8 is totally irrelevant to the B8 A5 2.0T owners out there.)
4. on that topic since you have had a bunch of setups, what is the difference in volume of stock vs. stock with piggies vs. with JHM’s fullback catted vs. JHM fullback non catted?
i.e. if stock is a reference point of 100…what # are the other three…i.e. is piggies 20% louder, thus 120? etc.