A tuna fish will never admit to a bad tune. A fake ass mechanic will never man up to shabby work. The blame will always be passed on to the weakest the person who is paying for services.
Food for thought: were you there when the heads were being torqued? Do you know for fact that they were done properly? If not they will tell you anything to dismiss themselves from blame.
Where you there when it was tuned? YES! Where you really there? NO. Just because you see the tuna fish tuning doesn’t mean you are really there. You are really just wasted space. To actually be there, you would have to be inside of the head of the person tuning and we all know that, that is impossible.
For me to believe it was bad bolts, I would also have to believe that your mechanic is bad. Can you post pics of the bad bolts? Why would a competent mechanic put bad bolts in your head???
You said your car was running fine before you went to get your tune, so wouldn’t the fact that it had problems after point directly to your tuna fish??? If something was wrong with the heads, he should have noticed it and stopped tunning. Bad TUNA FISH
If you were told this then you were scammed. this is something someone would make up to make it not there fault. This is about the biggest joke of a lie I can think of.
tweets I said this to you back when I analyzed the quarter mile data from your pbox run. I mentioned two VERY important factors
your run was downhill. 21 feet downhill to be accurate. That’s RIDICULOUS…thus doesn’t qualify for comparison to any legit timeslip frankly. Your brother’s track was flat. You would be starting from a 21 foot high ramp rather than on the flat. It would like like you’re on a ski jump.
this is a good piece of data to use, but it is not a dragstrip timeslip, so don’t go quoting it or you will get embarrassed.
Seems you forgot both key pieces of advice. If I were giving you advice right now, I would say ‘you guys are right, the EPL tuned Tial cars have indeed sucked at the dragstrip so far, but I will try to change that when my car is healthy’ and leave it at that. You are just lashing out and trying to slam/stab anyone who comes near you right now…and that’s not healthy.
Just to refresh your memory so you hopefully stop quoting your pbox run as your ‘trap speed’.
Guys here is the deal…
We are all very excited about what my car was capable of, even with my subpar 60fts…( i blame that on the track), It has been a big work in process to get that bruised banana out and running! I am very proud of what we have done with the car, and it has been a bunch of people that have helped me, Kurt, Justin, Reid, GB, JHM, and myself… It was a fun accomplishment that is for sure, and one that I am going to keep working on to improve it as well!!!
Reid came in because he has been working hard with Jason on his build and they went with tials. Now you say tials fail because no-one has had a fast tial car in the 1/4 mile… Well unfortunately Tweetler lifted heads and pushed the head gaskets when tony against Reid’s wishes kept leaning on his car with it was missing…well it was missing because Jason tried some different head studs or bolts and they did not work…SO Jason paid for Reid’s car to come back out there and fix it all for him for free, as he should but that is still standing up for your work which is honorable. Tweetlers car was way fast, and when he gets it back I will take to to the track and get a time slip for everyone as Reid is out on the road for 9 months perusing his dream. Tweetler has a tough battle because his car is really one of the only tial cars that has performed well on a instrument data log…(V Box) and I vboxed every run of mine and it is pretty dang accurate. most tial cars are lame and lots of it is tuning and also combinations. Tweelter as good parts and if the heads didn’t lift and push gaskets his car would have been there.
Tweetler knows what he is doing, and his car will be back together and will run again… I will always stand up and support him no matter what!
Everyone needs to take it easy and move on forward.
Just as I will continue to try to take my car and the JHM team to the next level as well! I am having a blast with this and Tweetler has supported me and everything that I and Kurt have done to the car thus far…Kurt will back that up!
Tweetler is excited about his car and it will perform well, how well we will just have to see…
Tweetler don’t get excited when people call out tials, just get them on your car and you or I will go run it and well see what it lays down!
To everyone else check out Reid’s website and go see him if he performs by a city near you, he is a unbelievable actor!
All in all it dosnt really matter I have a stock long block car and I am going for that record, and Tweelter is going for a tial record, is car comes into timing much faster than mine did even if we were running the same timing he spooled up faster than I did because he is a 3.0L and timing comes on much sooner to get ther process going…
Reid is not a Liar by anymeans…
I guess the straight goods are a little easier to understand.
[quote]Well unfortunately Tweetler lifted heads and pushed the head gaskets when tony against Reid’s wishes kept leaning on his car with it was missing…well it was missing because Jason tried some different head studs or bolts and they did not work…SO Jason paid for Reid’s car to come back out there and fix it all for him for free, as he should but that is still standing up for your work which is honorable.
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Sounds like tweets showed up at EPL with a misfiring car, and Tony ignored Reid’s warnings…and continued pushing it hard while tuning it on the dyno. Fail #1.
Also sounds like a bad choice was made with the hardware over at AMD. Fail #2.
Sounds like both guys (EPL/AMD) fucked up…and only one of them stepped up to fix the issue (AMD). Although they caused the issue, while EPL just exacerbated it.
Sounds like tweets showed up at EPL with a misfiring car, and Tony ignored Reid’s warnings…and continued pushing it hard while tuning it on the dyno. Fail #1.
Also sounds like a bad choice was made with the hardware over at AMD. Fail #2.
Sounds like both guys (EPL/AMD) fucked up…and only one of them stepped up to fix the issue (AMD). Although they caused the issue, while EPL just exacerbated it.
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Right! i admire jason for that…he better just use the best bolts studs he can buy this time!!!
No doubt I overreacted and misused info. Got a little too excited. I will admit I was wrong to use it like I did. We will hope for the best when the car is done.
Check out the tour schedule guys! It’s on my web link in my post in the general forum.
Less talking, more racing please. I’m sure Reid’s car is going to be a beast when it’s done. Hunters car is redic fast for a stock block and I think he can get into low 11s with his current setup. Both are great guys if you have ever met both of them!
I’m not sticking up for anything, definitely not Unitronic nor Tial. I was commenting on how it’s inaccurate to act like K03 allroads commonly run 12.3x in the quarter.
And did a 3 year old video really just get copied from youtube, rehosted here and a new thread made so that you guys can rabble rouse with each other while enjoying your favorite pastime of ‘Hate-Tial’ ;D
I don’t think Allroads have such a large showing in the 1/4 mile so on that point it would be best compared to the over all performance of the 2.7T. For the 2.7T this TialFail is one more in the list of well below excitement for even a ko3 car.
I think your missing the importance of this video. The Tial cars and the over all Tial campaign seems to be an empty bag. While it comes off as this great alternative when you really stack these cars up they are nothing more then a glorified dyno sheet and not much else. I personally fell into this Tial Trap and Im glad to see more of this first hand proof that these turbos seem to be nothing more then market hype pushed by a few dealers that are clearly making a large markup.
Snow. I think the point is no matter how you slice it. This is one more fail for the suposid gret tials.
The Allroad is by far the heaviest of the 2.7Ts but then again hunters car the 125 car with the Rs6r turbos is a wagon. So what are are taling here. 300lbs difference.
I don’t think the 300lbs would make up for the almost 10mph difference in trap speeds and almost 1/2 a second in et.