step one hear the sound. seems like ppl liked.
next step will be to see the actual pictures of this nicely engineered exhaust.
No, next step will be to prove it’s performance gain. With time slips (hint hint) and dynos to please the masses.
^^^ That depends Bango… some people actually just want to buy stuff that “LOOKS” nice, sounds nice and are expensive as fuck… just to feel elite (capristo anyone?)
seems we are a minority that care more about horsepower over hype
we have to remind ourselves that sometimes…
Good show, bora!!!
Good point. When going for looks, isn’t it just the tips (lol) that matter. The rest of the exhaust is hidden away and gets trashed anyway.
well i see the other post regarding exhausts that had a picture of the jhm 2.75" exhaust and it had many compliments on how it looked.
we have already heard ebwerks exhaust and it sounds like no one disagrees that it sounds good.
based on my conversations with the chief engineer from ebwerks it sounds like this company is a mixture of geek and motorhead. they are using of technology to design and build the exhaust. it really sounds interesting. i have seen pictures of the prototype and it looks built very well. but i am telling you based on the conversations with ben aka the engineer from ebwerks it is going to be put together very well.
therefore, i think ppl will not only like the sound but the looks.
i agree with you guys performance is really what is going to matter and i would like to see both dyno and 1/4 miles times. i am willing to do some 1/4 mile pulls if i end up getting their exhaust and this time i will post the slips.
one guy that lives close to me has a capristo which is very expensive but i can tell you that car is really one of the best cars i have ever heard. it is really a great sounding car.
hopefully we get the rest of the details on the ebwerks exhaust in the 3-4 weeks.
What the good will your 1/4 mile slip with Ben’s exhaust be without the stock time? You’re either pig ignorant stupid or just plain trolling.
I lol’d at the “Chief Engineer” title. I hope you’re being light hearted and witty!
well he is the one designing and building the exhaust for ebwerks. it really is interesting to hear how they are actually taking the prototype to production.
regarding my 1/4 mile time it may be worse than that…when really is going to be a good time to go to the track again? by the time the weather is right to go, i may have more than one mod performed as well as carbon cleaned and it will be hard to honestly know what individually added to the gains (if there are any).
currently i got an extra down pipe that needs to have the flex pipes replaced and then remove the pre-cats and i got a cat less 2.5" down pipes coming (just to check those out as well). will just swap these with the stock down pipes for fun to see if there are any differences in sounds.
one thing i have to do is take my car to inspection before doing any of this. i bought it in oct 2011 and have not had it through NJ inspection yet and need to do this prior to any exhaust swaps.
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care to elaborate? all I’ve seen so far is the following which imho proves nothing.
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Was just about to say this.
What tech/design? So far all I’ve seen is a CAD drawing of an exhaust modeled with a constant pressure.
you guys are funny…just bc he has not shared the details do not mean it is not true.
things will be proven one step at a time…just like the sound of the exhaust. i knew it sounded good bc i have heard numerous video clips of it.
i have also seen the prototype as well as other (custom) exhausts and even the prototype looked nicer compared to others.
i honestly am very interested in seeing the end product bc i think it is going to be built using well. then it is off to the dyno and the quarter mile.
You have? Where? Last I checked, we saw a video of a prototype. Nobody knows what the final product will be comprised of or sound like. Not even the ‘head engineer’ a.k.a. Ben.
the details that were shown are not using technology to design the exhaust, its a pretty picture with no value.
Guys, I have talked with swesna over chat several times regarding our exhaust answering some questions he has. I do not claim to be, nor am I a professional engineer. I use skills I have learned both from classes, and from working with engineers.
The photo that was posted was an example showing how we think. We do not use the data gained from there to advertise or promote our exhaust, or claim that it will perform well. We use the flow modeling within solidworks as a design tool. We look at the results to help identify potential problem areas and places that we should look at and see if it is possible to improve. We are currently working with another engineer to begin doing flow modeling of our exhaust with proper pulsed input measuring pressure drop across the system. This is just data for us to help us improve on our design and learn what works and what doesn’t without wasting money building and testing many prototypes. That results in cost savings on R&D and translates to less expensive products for the end user.
We are fully open to testing our exhaust however you would like. We will be testing the system on a stock, carbon cleaned car shortly to show dyno gains between stock and EBWerks. I am open to taking my car to the 1/4 mile to do a couple runs. I need to research what times the track is open and schedule a time to do this once I get the exhaust back on the car and can get a tune flashed.
Once we have a final version complete (production unit) we will post some photos. I spent the entire day working with our fabricator to perfect our production 996 Turbo exhaust. We take pride in the quality of our parts and won’t sell a product we are not happy to run on our own cars.
good to hear, for testing why don’t you verify the pressure loss seen in the model
IMO the OP’s video/exhaust sounds fantastic!
Good work!
looks like the final product is almost here…
http://forums.quattroworld.com/rs4b7/msgs/85240.phtml
Is it just me or is that last bend coming into the exhaust can pretty agressive? I guess that far down the line its not as big a deal?
Anyone know what mufflers those are?
does look like a sharpass bend. Two of them actually (the second one as a result of the first). Wonder why they did that? There’s room there to not do that. Seems to me that 180 degrees in bends in 1 foot of pipe is a bad thing…especially compared to about 70-90 degrees in bends in that area on the JHM exhaust. Who knows if that’s a big deal. I thought when the gases were slowing down (towards the end) that restrictions and bends were more damaging…could be wrong though.
Mick is now Ben’s advertising agent, since Ben has likely been told that if he tries to pump his shit on the forums, he’ll be banned. quattroworld, audizine…they all have sponsors who I am sure won’t enjoy watching Ben’s products pimped by mick. Considering Mick has already been caught describing ebwerks as ‘we’ on forums, I don’t imagine mick will be able to pull of the free advertising trick for long.
On to the bends!
p.s. this is a funny quote
“My well-calibrated eyeball tells me it’s going to flow very well indeed.”
good old elevens. Guess he’s only smart when he’s plagiarizing other people’s opinions.
http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=763.0
enrique werks
http://mickflanigan.smugmug.com/Cars/Random-Car-Pics/i-frqfs87/0/L/eb1-L.jpg
The JHM exhaust doesn’t have that. Ironically, this is the JHM exhaust that mick sold to a guy over on RS246
I heard that about gases near the end of the exhaust as well, from a pretty reliable source. Oh well, it’s shinier than JHM’s and doesn’t use those inferior sebring mufflers.
lol
and the shiny will be gone once he heat cycles it, or in mick’s case, slathers it with black ceramic coating. You can see at the x-pipe it is already brown from the welding heat.