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I think he was referencing the old B5 funnel jokes

Not an option, its a larger tank and personally prefer it so that I can easily monitor coolant levels for the blower

  1. they are offering a conservative pulley and testing with a smaller pulley right now in house but plan to have several options down the road from mild to wild.
  2. there will be a standard full range of octane maps that we are used to.
  3. i guess we will see :-\

As for the HPFP, magnusun told me that due to the great efficiency of the blower they saw no need for it at this particular juncture but down road, who knows.

Once I pick up the car tonight/tomorrow I will for sure start a thread

until I do a clutch the drag strip is out, but i’ll happily come back out to mexico for some data logging and maybe some pulls with petes dads car ;D

Ahh…ok

http://jokideo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Reaction-pictures-joke-over-my-head.jpg

Yes definitely come by us. The test strip is waiting.

You knew this day would come lol

OK, I have some questions

  1. who is they?
  2. which house is ‘in house’?

are you referring to APR bailing on a contract on Magnusson? or Magnusson bailing on Eaton?

You think about me too much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlOSdRMSG_k&t=40s

  1. magnusun
  2. magnusun and apr

Arin actually just posted some additional details. He says this is now the way APR/Magnuson will do business on all future kits. Also, 11.1@121.5 in 4200 DA. That’s with a smaller pulley APR will release, 104 fuel, and lightweight mods (basically, no exhaust, seats, LW rotors, no spare/tools).

Glad to see some actual numbers and a comprehensive info dump. Funny that magnuson allowed the shops to make those threads while this is what they should have waited for.

Interesting split of work/roles, makes sense for APR in that they focus solely on the software and hedge their risk with the hardware. The multiple pulley thing seems kind of strange…who is gonna shell out for that kit without wanting “the best”. Seems sort of like a weird compromise between apr/magnuson. If APR is always writing the software, I wouldn’t want to take risks with magnuson swapping pulleys independently.

Wonder if GIAC or REVO will write software for that kit…

I guess I’ll go back to the drag strip. How many times do I have to go until the conditions are right and times within a standard deviation of the record can be set? It doesn’t seem like a gasoline motor is capable of repeating an experiment like: take 2 stock S4’s, perform 2 mods, and achieve equal performance. There’s a lot of undocumented technique and no instruction on how to achieve those techniques, so it’s unsurprising most newbies only pull out a 13 even though there are claims of 11’s. Did you heat your tires to 160F? Use the lane with crazy sticky asphalt and 1.5 coefficient of friction? Source 108 octane fuel from a guy who knows a guy who wholesales it (because it’s not available at retail).

My main argument is I can go to a road course on almost any day and show you a 2:09 at Thunderhill or a 1:46 at Laguna. Doesn’t matter if it’s sunny or cloudy, cold or hot, it can even have rained earlier. It’s teachable and repeatable.

Kits like this TVS1740 seem to decrease the repeatability of performance, which is insane to me.

And they did all that with the stock headers as well.

http://i.imgur.com/1CEOsgn.jpg

Hmmm… Wonder if my email exhange with APR and Magnuson had anything to do with that… ;D

Hmm, that might be a bit hard to read, let me try that again, click on the image to view a bigger size


http://i.imgur.com/1CEOsgn.jpg

Try the link :slight_smile:

https://www.facebook.com/APRMotorsport/videos/10152966299455356/

I’m sure it made them realize they need to get out in front of this before things got too out of hand. I can’t imagine this is how anyone wanted the launch to go, but it begs the question why they didn’t work this out with the vendors selling it in the beta+ phase… The way they did the launch makes some sense, but not the way it handled from a marketing standpoint.