REVOLUTIONARY RESULTS - Dragstrip database update notification thread

No that was a joke, my wife would kill me :wink:

I thought we were all running no front seats, no rear seats, and no bumpers? (and no clocks)
#b5life

11.75 ET 116.2 mph

Audi S5 2015, Vp 109 Race Gas 1/4 tank, mods Stage 2 GIAC incl DSG Tune, CAI

Everything else stock

Should be fastest B8.5 S5 around

http://1drv.ms/1S1FnNI

What was jones’ best time last night?

So awesome. love the rs7. killer times guys. so jealous that I didn’t make it to Milan.

Guess I’ll throw my time up. Great meeting everyone by the way. Saki, if you can throw up your video of my pass that’d be awesome.

Going off of the conditions in saki’s post:
DA: 120ft.
Temp: 50 degrees

Car:
2004 B6 S4

Tune:
Custom JHM 91 Octane 8psi Tune For Colorado

Fuel:
MS109 - tune wasn’t set up for it so it may have hurt me :unamused:

Mods:
JHM/Vortech S/C
JHM Intercooler(no ice)
JHM Sleeved Block
JHM Forged Internals
JHM Built Heads
JHM Ported IM and TB
JHM IM Spacers
JHM LSD
JHM Shifter Trio
JHM LW Flywheel and 5R Clutch
JHM LW Rotors F&R
JHM V1 Headers
FI Non-Res Exhaust

Wheels/Tires:
BC Forged LW 18x9s
Michelin PSS 265/35

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/25/e55e8e00c34b7d5ada224b2365088914.jpg

Wasn’t the best time ever, but CV talked to Jason@JHM and the tune was basically set up like a stage 1 tune. Regardless, it was my first time ever at the strip and getting the chance to really beat on the car so I had a ton of fun. I drove 4 hours there, let the car cool down for maybe an hour before jumping in line. There was nobody there so it was pretty much a pass every 5-10 minutes at most and I got 8 passes in back to back. Missed the 3-4 shift 3 times :unamused:, left traction control on once, completely blew it 'missing 1-2 and 3-4 once, and the last run I blew up my 1st gear synchro. The wheels were spinning well past the 60ft mark. Gonna get flashed later this week, order a rebuilt transmission from JHM, and hopefully get to a track before the end of the year. If not, I guess I’ll have to wait until Spring.

Someone mentioned no passenger or back seats on this run. Is that correct?

No that was a joke, my wife would kill me :wink:

I thought we were all running no front seats, no rear seats, and no bumpers? (and no clocks)
#b5life

haha those AMD trolls are having there way with you on the interwebs.

they make some good points, and cloud it with ridiculousness.

  1. you did talk a lot of shit to them lol
  2. you did run reasonably disappointing ETs
  3. we do always say the 1/4 mile isn’t that hard so people ought to be able to get nine/tenths out of their cars

With that being said, I’m confident your car has a whole lot more in it. With the boost you were making, and the tune you were running, your car should have been able to crack off an 11.7 @ 119 for perspective, so you can see that you left about 5 tenths adn 1 MPH on the table. Running 109 octane fuel on a 91 tune is useless, and may actually cause the tune some problems because the car is looking for a particular set of burn conditions and the race fuel is nowhere near like west coast 91.

The 1 MPH will come from quicker shifting
The 5 tenths will come from a better launch (you shoudl be 1.72-1.74), snappier shifts and nailing your shift points.

Not dogging on your driving but you said yourself you know you’re leaving a bunch on the table. The videos bear that out with the sound showing us your shifts and we can hear RPMs etc. If you had a couple of passes where you launched nice, nailed the shifts, and shifted at your optimal RPM, and you STILL only went 12.5 @ 109, sure we’d all have some questions for JHM. But when you’re trapping 118 on a 91 tune, it shows there’s actually a supercharger making power in your car. The thing the AMD guys don’t get is we dog on the AMD customers because they run shit times and they’re the ONLY ones running AMD cars (since AMD is such a little shop, they don’t even prove their concepts on shop cars…unless they tune the local transit bus because they have no shop cars). That’s where their customers who stand up and take on the role of the AMD spokespeople get raked for running shit times. JHM goes and puts the parts on their shop cars, runs a time, and shows everyone what the kit can do. It’s up to us to match or beat them, which we have seen in almost every single JHM setup on these 4.2 cars.

bolt on B67 - loads of customers matched and beat JHM’s times
nitrous B67 - customer beat JHM, another matched JHM
supercharged stage 1 B67 - one customer beat them, another matched them within a couple tenths (but made the MPH)
bolt on RS4 - 3 customers beat JHM’s times
supercharged stage 1 RS4 - one customer beat them and as more get to the track, that will grow
supercharged stage 2 RS4 - not released yet

Lots of AMD trolls will say ‘oh JHM only posts times that nobody can replicate’ but anyone who spends 4 minutes on any of the dragstrip databases will see that this is bullshit.

On the other side of it, you talked a good amount of shit to those guys about your car vs. their cars, so you deserve some flak, and having spent the evening with you and a bunch of guys, I think you’d be the first to admit that you deserve a bunch of shit lol.

All in all, good job getting out there. Now go prove those morons wrong and run something awesome!

I have like 4 vids of your car. In 3 of them you miss gears and run somewhat haggard times (12.4@109 etc). In one you went 12.52 @ 116 but the other car was so loud I couldn’t hear shit from your car. If you post all of your slips, I will be able to pick out the ones where you were going along reasonably well before missing 4th, and give you an idea what you were on pace for had you hit 4th like you hit the previous 2 shifts. Just take a high res picture of them all flattened out with good light. If they’re blown launches or 1st-2nd shifts, there’s not much I can see, but anything where you got out of 2nd I can see a lot.

I will post the 12.52 @ 116 vid later tonight.

Here’s an example…this pass didn’t have a very good launch, nor did it have a very good 1-2 or a 2-3 shift. I can tell this by looking at your 1/4 mile ET vs. your 330 foot ET and 60’.

After 330 feet (you’re into 3rd gear by this point) you were on pace for about 12.75. You ran 12.22
This means the launch, the 1-2 and/or the 2-3 cost you a bunch of time. If your car was indeed a 12.22 car at best, you would be at about 5.09 at the 330 foot mark and no better (or worse). We know your car is faster though because you still went 12.22 with a modest 5.3 time at 330 feet.

Yeah you’re definitely right, shouldn’t have opened my mouth beforehand, and I will just have to let them say what they say. I’m hoping next time will be much more successful, just wish it didn’t have to wait. Still happy I went though, and I have a much greater respect for Kurt, who is just an awesome person to know and have as a friend. Jones2012s4, drob23, mrmomo313, and madman4you, it was awesome meeting you guys, thanks again for the quick stop on the side of the highway :wink: Great hanging out with you too saki. Thanks for the input and the videos. I’ll go dig up the rest of the slips and post them, although 1 or 2 of them may be a little mangled haha.

Still can’t believe Tim gave a wave as if he’s still trying to be cool with Kurt.

Not the greatest time but not too bad either. All of that makes sense. You actually mentioned on here that the car was making 8lbs of boost and you moved from a place that didnt have better then 91 fuel.

From the data I saw you only had single digit timing and zero corrections. So the fuel wasnt going to do anything and like saki said it might have done more to hurt the performance. you ran within the range of what the car would be in and thats good.

There was a big B6 S4 failure that night but it didnt come from your car. All the losers are just mad. On the same night at the same track your 8lb of boost b6 beat the 600hp 2.7t joke of a b6. There is no debating that.

sakis post is right on and you want to understand you make posts to losers who dont have running cars or there cars are utter failures everything AMD is a fail the owner or ring leader is the biggest fail. We expect anything AMD to fail because thats all they do. JHM has loads of sucuess so the trolls hope and look for the times when its not super star results.

All the sane people see you and your car have room for improvement. Lots of that improvement is getting the right file for your car now that your able to run better fuel and you have your car broken in.

Hey man, I think everyone gets a little too wrapped up with where their cars should be that they forget about the journey getting there. If this was easy, we’d all have 10 second cars (V8TT’s removed haha). You were really pysched up beforehand and I could tell the adrenaline was flowing in between passes. I will admit that the drag strip feels pretty mellow dramatic the first few times you go down. On my second pass some guy came up, pretended to chat and then pretty much told me I was moron for driving through the water box. You don’t want to fuck up the tree, are worried about your go pros and logging computer, and then forget the simple shit (like turning off your traction control or air conditioning :wink: ). Every now and then you get to watch someone launch in reverse haha

Anyways, we all got to hang out, you did end up putting down some respectable times, and best of all…we didn’t have to sit there for 1 hour between passes. So fuck it, choke it up to first times and just go kill it the next time. Definitely go meet up with some of the AR guys in Chicago, seems to be a good group of guys who like to go.

And of course remember that the rest of us there all had DSG/Auto’s.

It was great meeting you too MDUBZ. You have a beast of a car and I’m sure you’ll eventually run the time you want to.

Mike made a great point, relish the journey! I was talking about this with primetime over PM. It’s been so much fun watching the transition my s4 made from a unassuming 13 second 4 door to running in the 11’s now… That journey isn’t over as I want to see how much faster I can make this car go ;D. Almost equally enjoyable for me is following other peoples journeys as well. That said I’m looking forward to seeing you meet your goals in the future

I had an awesome time that night and would love to have another meet at the strip sometime. Next time saki better bring his rs4 too! I wanna see more 4.2’s in action, don’t have very many in my area

There are more then you know LOL. It would be cool to have a meet before the track closes. Im pissed I missed this. Funny how all of the B8 s4 B6 and B7 S4 guys have no issues and they cheer for eachother.

Guess I’ll throw my time up. Great meeting everyone by the way. Saki, if you can throw up your video of my pass that’d be awesome.

Going off of the conditions in saki’s post:
DA: 120ft.
Temp: 50 degrees

Car:
2004 B6 S4

Tune:
Custom JHM 91 Octane 8psi Tune For Colorado

Fuel:
MS109 - tune wasn’t set up for it so it may have hurt me :unamused:

Mods:
JHM/Vortech S/C
JHM Intercooler(no ice)
JHM Sleeved Block
JHM Forged Internals
JHM Built Heads
JHM Ported IM and TB
JHM IM Spacers
JHM LSD
JHM Shifter Trio
JHM LW Flywheel and 5R Clutch
JHM LW Rotors F&R
JHM V1 Headers
FI Non-Res Exhaust

Wheels/Tires:
BC Forged LW 18x9s
Michelin PSS 265/35

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/25/e55e8e00c34b7d5ada224b2365088914.jpg

Wasn’t the best time ever, but CV talked to Jason@JHM and the tune was basically set up like a stage 1 tune. Regardless, it was my first time ever at the strip and getting the chance to really beat on the car so I had a ton of fun. I drove 4 hours there, let the car cool down for maybe an hour before jumping in line. There was nobody there so it was pretty much a pass every 5-10 minutes at most and I got 8 passes in back to back. Missed the 3-4 shift 3 times :unamused:, left traction control on once, completely blew it 'missing 1-2 and 3-4 once, and the last run I blew up my 1st gear synchro. The wheels were spinning well past the 60ft mark. Gonna get flashed later this week, order a rebuilt transmission from JHM, and hopefully get to a track before the end of the year. If not, I guess I’ll have to wait until Spring.

haha those AMD trolls are having there way with you on the interwebs.

they make some good points, and cloud it with ridiculousness.

  1. you did talk a lot of shit to them lol
  2. you did run reasonably disappointing ETs
  3. we do always say the 1/4 mile isn’t that hard so people ought to be able to get nine/tenths out of their cars

With that being said, I’m confident your car has a whole lot more in it. With the boost you were making, and the tune you were running, your car should have been able to crack off an 11.7 @ 119 for perspective, so you can see that you left about 5 tenths adn 1 MPH on the table. Running 109 octane fuel on a 91 tune is useless, and may actually cause the tune some problems because the car is looking for a particular set of burn conditions and the race fuel is nowhere near like west coast 91.

The 1 MPH will come from quicker shifting
The 5 tenths will come from a better launch (you shoudl be 1.72-1.74), snappier shifts and nailing your shift points.

Not dogging on your driving but you said yourself you know you’re leaving a bunch on the table. The videos bear that out with the sound showing us your shifts and we can hear RPMs etc. If you had a couple of passes where you launched nice, nailed the shifts, and shifted at your optimal RPM, and you STILL only went 12.5 @ 109, sure we’d all have some questions for JHM. But when you’re trapping 118 on a 91 tune, it shows there’s actually a supercharger making power in your car. The thing the AMD guys don’t get is we dog on the AMD customers because they run shit times and they’re the ONLY ones running AMD cars (since AMD is such a little shop, they don’t even prove their concepts on shop cars…unless they tune the local transit bus because they have no shop cars). That’s where their customers who stand up and take on the role of the AMD spokespeople get raked for running shit times. JHM goes and puts the parts on their shop cars, runs a time, and shows everyone what the kit can do. It’s up to us to match or beat them, which we have seen in almost every single JHM setup on these 4.2 cars.

bolt on B67 - loads of customers matched and beat JHM’s times
nitrous B67 - customer beat JHM, another matched JHM
supercharged stage 1 B67 - one customer beat them, another matched them within a couple tenths (but made the MPH)
bolt on RS4 - 3 customers beat JHM’s times
supercharged stage 1 RS4 - one customer beat them and as more get to the track, that will grow
supercharged stage 2 RS4 - not released yet

Lots of AMD trolls will say ‘oh JHM only posts times that nobody can replicate’ but anyone who spends 4 minutes on any of the dragstrip databases will see that this is bullshit.

On the other side of it, you talked a good amount of shit to those guys about your car vs. their cars, so you deserve some flak, and having spent the evening with you and a bunch of guys, I think you’d be the first to admit that you deserve a bunch of shit lol.

All in all, good job getting out there. Now go prove those morons wrong and run something awesome!

I have like 4 vids of your car. In 3 of them you miss gears and run somewhat haggard times (12.4@109 etc). In one you went 12.52 @ 116 but the other car was so loud I couldn’t hear shit from your car. If you post all of your slips, I will be able to pick out the ones where you were going along reasonably well before missing 4th, and give you an idea what you were on pace for had you hit 4th like you hit the previous 2 shifts. Just take a high res picture of them all flattened out with good light. If they’re blown launches or 1st-2nd shifts, there’s not much I can see, but anything where you got out of 2nd I can see a lot.

I will post the 12.52 @ 116 vid later tonight.

Here’s an example…this pass didn’t have a very good launch, nor did it have a very good 1-2 or a 2-3 shift. I can tell this by looking at your 1/4 mile ET vs. your 330 foot ET and 60’.

After 330 feet (you’re into 3rd gear by this point) you were on pace for about 12.75. You ran 12.22
This means the launch, the 1-2 and/or the 2-3 cost you a bunch of time. If your car was indeed a 12.22 car at best, you would be at about 5.09 at the 330 foot mark and no better (or worse). We know your car is faster though because you still went 12.22 with a modest 5.3 time at 330 feet.

Thanks Justin. That’s exactly how Kurt explained it to me too. Looking forward to getting back out and hopefully getting a chance to meet you as well next time.

Haha for sure, the manual definitely makes it tricky the first time out. There’s a lot of things to watch and pay attention to.

Definitely enjoying the journey and I’m a little happy the car was a little tamer than it could have been. It was good to get some practice in for once. You definitely can’t get that kind of practice just daily driving or pulling hard onto the highway. Definitely would have been cool to see saki make some passes, maybe next time.

Well, here’s my 3 readable slips.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/27/19a44021e729626fa450e71a4eabf820.jpg

Here’s the other 5 not so readable tickets.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/27/db160861c677b73802bc59dce92b9938.jpg

I also had a ninth run actually, but that was the one the timing tower forgot to send or whatever so that ticket never made it into my hands.