Besides barely hearing blow off valves and the fact that he’s doing that shit on a public street, I can’t tell much from the vid. I want to see a decent vid of him running at the strip. However he’s already making excuses that he’s no good at the quarter mile. Maybe his buddy Brian at DTT could run it for him at the strip. He seems a bit more familiar with that type of event, I’m guessing here, as he has a picture at the strip on his FB page. His DYNO charts are completely useless to me as he has been caught numerous times cooking those. So all these current ones are as good as a toilet paper.
Now who wants to bet on what going to happen in this case: he blows his BNS first or some dumdum actually purchases this “kit”?
I’m just open to the possibility that the setup will actually perform. He didn’t build it himself, after all - it was built by people who obviously have done this type of thing before. Some people seem very fearful that anything positive will automatically legitimize this guy - and that couldn’t be further from the truth. Look at the way he acts, he’s a douche…but even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while. It will be unfortunate if this does outperform all existing kits out there and even more unfortunate for the first people who try to buy this kit. I’m a grown-ass-adult and I can make my own educated decisions but you guys are right, someone is going to buy this kit eventually (if he can produce it). It’ nice that you guys are looking out for people but eventually, you have to allow natural selection to run its course. Anyone spending this kind of money on a kit without doing any research is as dumb as Vigo.
Actually it’s not far from the truth, people are already interested in purchasing a turbo kit that has been running for a few weeks. The OP talks of stages…lol says stage 1 is already completely and they are moving onto stage 2…after a week of dynos and a few trips around the fucking block.
You obviously just don’t get it Jeff and you’ve been given the back story like a dozen times by now. This guys was part of the PES group. PES blew motors, sold shit products and swindled people for tens of thousands of dollars. It wasn’t even a year ago that he was pushing their new whipple kit with dynos and talk of how fast the car was. He never made it to the strip but he has tried to fake a visit to a strip.
Yes people will always get screwed over, but I refuse to warning people as long as I am still part of the community. Does it get old? Fuck yeah it does…but the problem is he is growing supporters and the knowledge less vacuum of AZ will soon allow the new or uneducated crowd to get scammed even easier.
If you want to see what I mean, look at what’s happening to the B8 S4 crowd right now.
can’t tell shit from that video. Sounds like he’s short shifting every gear. He claimed he went to 8000 on every gear but 5th, but that’s a crock as that would mean he’s going 130 mph+ in the video
Frankly nobody cares what the kit does performance wise because it’s completely unbuyable. Having this guy attached to it, and in fact selling it (he uses the word ‘we’ not ‘they’ when referring to the sales) means it’s a completely untouchable option.
Turbos are neat but a proven, tested supercharger kit at 1/3 to 1/4 the price from a real company (JHM) are far more interesting to me.
If some stranger came in and said he was going to turbo his car, everyone would be skeptical but watch with interest. Unfortunately that’s what people like jeff3838547775 are trying to turn Mario Mollieire into. He’s not just some stranger. He’s someone who has lied and scammed and cost people tens of thousands of dollars with the pump and dump PES scams.
A couple of years ago he had a PES M112 kit and claimed it was 500 whp+ (just like he’s doing now).
He attacked all the other kits (just like he’s doing now with APR and JHM).
He claimed he beat every supercar under the sun.
He claimed he ran the fastest ever 1/4 mile time for a B7.
Morons lapped it up and kissed his feet. Some of us knew better.
So I checked some of his facts. Didn’t take long to blow the cover off the whole thing, and within minutes he claimed he was moving on to a new whipple kit (Again helping PES pump and dump)
The best part of this post is that we had a list of people who supported this scammer and said ‘hey you haters, leave him alone!’, only to see them STFU and disappear once he was exposed. Amazingly, some of the same people (jareds941 namely) are back in there THIS TIME supporting him lololol.
Alright, no problem there…unless you’ve been paying attention
HE LIVES IN RHODE ISLAND?
According to his info on Audizine, he lives in Rhode Island. That’s far from PBIR. So…how far? According to google maps, that’s 23 hrs or 1300 miles!
That’s a FUCKTON of driving to do for a ‘business trip’. Who on earth drives from Rhode Island to Palm Beach? Especially someone who just bought a $40,000 car and a $15,000 modlist for it in the past 4 months. So…let’s give him the beiiificientficientficientit of the doubt here…he mentioned something about New Jersey. Is that much closer? NOPE! That’s still 1000 miles, or about 16 hrs driving straight through.
So that is a big fishy strike one. But, maybe he’s like John Madden, and refuses to fly.
Now that we know that he is actually notorious thief from vortex, Mario Moliere, it turns out he lives in Florida and us trying to hide his identity. Awesome…thieves are buying RS4 s now.
THE TIMELINE
The weirdest thing to me may be the timeline (if driving for 20 hrs isn’t weird enough, each way). He claims he was at PBIR last week on October 3rd. OK. So you set a BLAZINGLY fast quarter mile time, then posted this later that VERY SAME DAY?
Check the timestamp. AZ defaults to California time. Pacific…Florida -3hrs. So he posted that at 11:06 pm Eastern Standard Time. Why is that weird? Don’t forget…he had literally hours before that run 11.2, 11.4, 11.3 at PBIR. So comfortably a couple of hours later he’s ditching the M112 and going whipple, even though our man was peeling off a 11.26 @ 126.4! That’s confusing. If my car was doig that, I’d be damn happy, to say the least. I wouldn’t be posting about rippoing it apart and giving up on it.
Further confusing us all is that a few days AFTER the supposed world record RS4 run, he posted this…
[quote=mmRS4audi Oct 06, 2012]hou cares about quarter mile numbers !!!lots of high power car cant put the power to the ground and u get low result on quarter of miles i had a 800 awhp plus vw 2004 r32 most i did was 11.4 quarter of mile because just spining tires!!!but on the highway thats where you feel the power !!the rs4 is not made for quarter mile track
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That’s an odd comment to make for someone who just drove two and a half thousand miles round trip 3 days earlier to run the fastest ever Audi RS4 quarter mile time.
a) The header
Tracks sometimes change the header on the printed timeslips. PBIR does it a lot. On his timeslip, it says ‘2011 National Sport Compact Racing Association Round 1’. Hmm…the biggest dragstrip in the country is still rocking a header from 18 months ago (I believe it was back in Mar2011). That makes no sense.
Let’s check that out. Did anyone else hit PBIR on Wednesday? Yup. This guy did. Note his timeslip header.
Something else about that timeslip from Oct 3rd…it was exactly the same dimensions, in pixels, as the one mmrs4audi posted as his own. Pretty interesting I think. Could just be a co-incidence, but a weird one huh? No other timeslip on all of google images had those dimensions. Just saying.
So let’s again give Mario Moliere the beificientit of the doubt. Maybe PBIR left the 2011 Sport Compact header on from March 2011, until AFTER the private event Mario was supposedly at on Wednesday. That would explain why he had that header…and that would explain why the LSX guy above didn’t. All we need is another timeslip from 2012. How about this one? Oops. Guess that solves that part of the riddle.
b) The ET+RT WIN marker at the bottom of the slip (circled in green)
All tracks show ET (elapsed time) but they also show your reaction time, for bracket racing when you’re heads up with your opponent. Then they add the two up, and show at the bottom of the timeslip Right 1st or Left1st, and show how much time they won by. If we add up the times for MarioMiller/mmRS4Audi vs the cars in the other lanes he was supposedly against, it doesn’t add up. In all three timeslips, the ET+RT winner is off by EXACTLY 1 second. That seems odd. Sounds like someone photoshopped 1 second exactly off the ET. So a shameworthy 12.45 (for someone claiming 600 hp or nearly 500 whp) quickly becomes an 11.45.
c) The times just don’t add up. Simply put, the car is WAY TOO SLOW in the first 1/8th and WAY TOO FAST in the second 1/8th for this to be considered anywhere near believable. Again, suspecting a photoshop job, this makes sense. Let’s examine it. Says he was 8.0 to 8.2 seconds to the 1/8 mile marker. Now…sure he may suck at launching. That would explain the 60 foot. But that wouldn’t explain the 1/8 mile ET. At the 1/8 mile mark, you are almost out of 3rd gear in these cars, and shifting into fourth. He is only about as fast as my stock RS4 record time was at the 1/8 mile. But was he coming on like a train to explain how he is 15 car lengths ahead and 20 MPH faster in trap speed? Fuck no. His 60 foot/330 foot and 660 foot(1/8) times were virtually identical to mine, and his MPH was a hair better at the 1/8. So what happened after the 1/8? Did he turn on nitrous yo? No, he doesn’t have nitrous. He has a modest sized supercharger that would be starting to struggle…not be getting ready to put the greatest 1/8 MPH vs. 1/4 MPH of any B5/6/7 S4/RS4 of all time.
Picking up nearly 40 MPH is INSANE in the quartermile.
For perspective, my 12.75 run I picked up 23 MPH.
On george’s 12.28 run he picked up 23 MPH
On APR’s 11.83 run they picked up 23 MPH (seeing a trend)
On TTS’s 11.4 run they picked up 25 MPH
On mmrs4audi’s run, he picked up 40 MPH!
This is not doable on an M112. I don’t care if it is fueled by gold and unicorn horn and Kate Upton’s panties. Not happening.
You can say ‘I was spinning’ if you want. Great. That would happen on the launch. On one of the runs he was 1.9 (not good, but not detrimental to the next 600 feet of the run for fuck’s sake). On one of the runs he was 1.8 (good enough to ensure the rest of the first half was setup to be awesome…not to basically run like an all motor stock RS4 lol).
SO…we have lots of questions. I can’t wait to hear his answers. I also can’t wait to hear the answers from the guys at PBIR and ROADTESTTV, the youtube channel who are at, and take video of, every dragstrip event at PBIR. Car 6418…who are you?
p.s. a few guys on AZ have noticed that this doesn’t add up. A few others are cheering and patting this guy on the back for lying and making fools of the forum. Let’s take a stroll through the list of ‘I WAS TOO DUMB TO SEE THE FACTS’
CLINT FROM RAI a.ka. AudiA42.0t a.k.a. The Engine Swap Wizard (in his own head) was too dumb to realise he was being had
And my favourite ‘toodumb’ guy…our friend ACE who lashed out and swore and name called, and dropped incorrect information and then disappeared. I hope the autosubscribe is on still on audirevolution…because that means he will see this post. If so…WAY TO GO BROTHER! You made a class AAA ass of yourself.
Looks like we can add Jaredd, Mick’s best buddy, to the ‘too dumb to know better’ crew. It will be funny to watch who volunteers to join that team over the next few hours. Once they read what we’ve all seen and posted, the club will struggle to get new members (until the next retard comes along for them to stroke and caress and soothe with their ‘you haters are mean!’ bullshit)
Crap. I probably can’t make it up there tomorrow. A 2.5+ hour drive each way after work is a little much to see if a scammer shows up. He said he was going to a test and tune, which are on the weekends. Wednesday/Fridays are street nights. I’ll see how the day goes.
The only way he’ll ever post real results is if they’re good. If he goes and flops he’ll just say he didn’t go.
So you’re saying that you can’t accept the possibility that it might perform well? That’s some extreme denial there. It’s actually further along than you predicted in previous posts.
That said, I’m completely with you - guy is a tool and I’d tell everyone who I saw looking at it to stay away. So yes, I get it.
I don’t agree. I wouldn’t trust anything he says but from watching the video,short shifting or not, it’s accelerating a lot better than mine does…a lot better.
To make it easier on you, you can just call me Jeff - since you can’t type my zip code.
I’m not turning anything into anything. Find a post where I said to trust this guy, go for it. I’m just not as narrow minded and bitter as you are. I want to see the potential here, yes. Do I want anyone to get scammed, no. Is there anything I can do (or any of you, for that matter) to stop him from reaching whatever conclusion he’s going to reach? No. All you can do is what you’re doing - warning people. Maybe you shouldn’t label everyone who wants to see how this ends up as a “supporter” or someone who is trying to help him sell kits.
It’s even more juvenile here than at AZ. I’ve tried to leave some good info here, following up on my posts and doing my best to help others. What do I get for it? -1 member rating? So small of you guys.
where did he say he refuses anything? All he said that the guy has a history of lying and tricking people (people like yourself) into thinking he’s got something great. So based on his criminal history, his forging timeslip history, and his lying history, who gives a fuck about the end result he tells us? Seriously.
The car if it is turbocharged, and if the tuner is able to harness the boost, and if it made a legit 500 whp and 450+wtq, and if he drives it like he did in the video he posted today, he should be able to run 11.25 @ 127 or thereabouts on pump gas with 4 seats and an exhaust. But if he posts a 11.25 @ 127 timeslip, based on his history, will anyone with a brain in their head believe it? I think I would have to drive the car myself to believe beyond a reasonable doubt. And even then, why the fuck would I buy an untested 2 week old kit from a scam artist for the same performance JHM put down 3 years ago for half the price? Or APR for 2/3 the price? It makes zero sense that anyone is even at all interested.
Once a cheat, once a scammer, once a thief, once a liar…always.
See, if he’s lying (we know he’s lying about the short shifting unless you think he went 0-130 in 5 seconds) why the fuck are we even discussing the rest of it?
See, this is your problem. Let me help you and your Mario Molliere loving ways out. First off I’m not bitter at all. I’m pretty positive. I’m just not dumb, naive or gullible. Might be why you’re confused.
the restriction is not the supercharger (on the JHM kit). The restriction is the engine.
the restriction in the engine is not catastrophic failure by bent rods and engine implosion. The restriction is more complicated, and takes time to destroy.
knowing this, you need to know the limit the engine can take from all of heat, boost, power, torque…not just torque (rods).
OK…so knowing this, and knowing that there are already 4 kits out there that on pump gas are running low 11s @ 125+…and knowing that the one company that knows the car better than everyone else (JHM if you weren’t paying attention) are hesitant to even sell an 11.1 @ 125+ kit, even though their blower can support 750 hp comfortably…who the fuck cares what ‘potential’ there exists in turbos?
Hell AMD posted 500 whp dyno charts, and an 11.3 @ 126 1/4 mile, and then backed it off a ton when they sold it to customers. The AMVIVGMP High Pressure customers are seeing 425-450 whp if they’re lucky and kryptonik, an excellent driver with 7 yrs RS4 seat time and plenty of 1/4 mile experience went 11.8 @ 121…aka 425-450 whp.
JHM has run their supercharger on their shop car at close to 600 whp. The rods held up. Other parts did not. So you need a built motor. JHM sells a stage 1 kit at 6 PSI and around 400-420 whp. They will intercool that for you and let you push it to 450whp. Other than that, they are unconvinced it’s safe.
APR have sold some 1740 kits, and according to reports from owners and employees at APR alike, they are frying rings and running 16 PSI to make 500 whp. APR’s first 1740 car (which was a customer/dealer car lol) has killed multiple motors according to APR employees. The fellow in southern california fried his rings and is churning through oil and making a smokeshow. meem who takes better care of his cars than most people take care of their children had his motor fried in a couple of months. Flying Tomatoes’ car was reported to be smoking like a diesel coal roller, and got flatbedded home from a show to a shop that posted a pic of his car on facebook on a lift with the motor out (and the shop quickly took the photo down at his request). It was also confirmed that he was out there buying motor(s) last year.
So tell me jeff5588822…if JHM and APR and all of these companies have made XXX power, and all have used great drivers to test the hell out of their kits, why, the fuck, would a turbo kit be any different unless it’s running enough power to destroy the engine?
The only reason this kit makes ANY sense is if you just love turbo sounds. Otherwise, it’s
a) too unproven (untested)
b) too risky (scammers)
c) too expensive
You’d have to be retarded to walk past TTS, JHM, APR, to buy this thing.
I’m not going to bother quoting the novel that you always feel required to write…
I’ll just say this. You’re certainly confused. I’m sure you won some awards on the debate team by going around and around in circles, ignoring the facts. Find where I said I wanted to buy one or where I suggesting anyone buy one, including myself? As a geared, I’m curious about the technology and limitations of this motor, nothing else.
How many times do you have to see someone agree with you about the scammer aspect of this?
I have to say, it really seems like your so bitter that the car is running that you’ll lash out at anyone who is in the least bit interested in the results. The further along he gets, the more bitter and butt-hurt you sound. Actually comical.
I’m done posting in here (you can thank me if you want). I wasn’t on the debate team, like you were and I don’t have the time to compete here (17k posts??? lol).
You said when I show you home lying you’d join in with your pitchfork. That happened weeks ago, but here you are hoping he somehow advances the platform by blowing his motor with 2 turbos. If companies were just set on breaking cars and blowing motors, how far would that get us?
We’ll just have to disagree on me supporting a scammer, I’m not. Nothing any of us say is going to prevent him from coming to whatever conclusion he’s going to arrive at.
You’re saying that I can’t be interested in the outcome without supporting him. That’s wrong. As for the pitchfork thing - I have called him out a couple of times. I thought it was hysterical that he was starting to question someone elses time slips (JHM).
It’s like saying that liking brunettes or redheads makes someone racist. They have nothing to do with each other.
Jeff I think this argument is much like the header argument that we all agree in areas but there are a few sticking point that might be getting missed or you possible don’t care.
1 the outperform thing. This is a big deal because the honest company’s knew they had to be responsible and say wow at a point. This guy is a proven scam and lier. So even if he did make more power who would even know. And even if he did go just as fast who would trust the information he was submitting on what it took as accurate. So if this guy decided to blow his motor to prove a point know one would likely know because he has proven to be dishonest. It’s not like APR and Jhm couldn’t turn up there kits to make more power.
2 this is like the header thing. The let’s just see argument. Let’s see what. More of what dishonest people that want to profit off the gullible have to fed us now. Most guys here and else where have kinda a car guy code that goes beyond audi and is in each car forum. The your dead to me clause. That the clause that says there’s a point where you black ball guys like this and the China company’s because there’s someone that just got ripped off for thousands because of this guy or these people being a fraud.
In some ways weather you want to recognize it or not others see you supporting this kind of activity. I understand wanting to see how things turn out but we were lied to about how all his past projects turned out. But there is still people gullible enough to be suckered in again because twin turbos.
This thread is for guys like you that kept saying where’s the proof that the headers were copied where is the proof people got ripped off. Where is the proof that the threads were deleted.
Your posting in the thread your watching the posts get deleted on other forums and your still supporting this guy and this other attempt to rip people off.
I come from a school of “trust but verify” (thanks friend who taught me this one). I never did doubt that headers were faked. I can feel the vibe of a forum and I leaned instantly towards “this guy is a scammer”. I still want to see what happens, if for nothing else, just to learn the limitations of the platform.
So here I am in the middle…sorry if you guys hate me for it but… I don’t trust the guy…I want to see the conclusion. NOTHING you can say here is going to stop him from coming to whatever conclusion that is. All you can do here is dissuade people from purchasing a kit, if ever available - and I’m on-board with that part.
That’s as simple as I can say it. Take it or leave it.
