Facts equal hate?

B6/7 S4/RS4
#64

ace, since all you do is hurl insults and slurs, it’s pretty tough to find your points, but I’ll dig through and do my best to take you to school…because I’m about to serve you a big shitburger full of actual truth to remind you what actually happened here

Actually, I started the thread to mock Audizoo, where people with poor information are coddled and stroked, and people who share FACTS are labelled haters because their harsh realities might hurt someone’s feelings who just spent a bunch of money. That’s counter to progress.

If you have a farm, and one of the animals has an infectious disease, you have three
choices.

  1. do nothing and let the animal’s condition worsen, and potentially infect others
  2. treat the diseased animal to save it and your herd (my personal preference)
  3. do nothing and in an effort to not hurt the diseased animal’s feelings, you coddle them, tell the rest of the herd the animal is just fine, that there’s nothing wrong, and that they should all continue interacting, thereby encouraging the spread of the disease.

If you haven’t figured it out, misinformation is the disease, mmrs4 is infected, and you are the guy in #3 stroking his back, telling him and everyone that everything is ok, because you’re too worried about his feelings to realise you’re promoting regression, not progress.

thought that thread, where you had TWO people with MP112 supercharged RS4s telling the guy he was WAY off base with his expectations (and trying to tell the forum the same), was ridiculous because rather than people recognizing their input, people labelled them and others who know how to read a compressor map ‘haters’. Here’s what I wrote in the OP of this thread here on AR. Tell me where I mocked anyone other than the retards who were attacking the facts?

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[quote]-new guy buys PES SC kit with Eaton/harrup mp112
-people tell him lots of problems with the kit in the past
-new guy says it will be different this time
-new guy says he will make 600 whp
-people tell him that is unrealistic, point out the limitations of the blower, of the cooling…including one guy who owned the exact setup. All facts.
-people call the fact sharers “haters”
-new guy now says he will make 550 whp
-more facts shared…more hater labels
-new guy posts dyno…430 whp
-people congratulate and thank him…but nobody says “haters were right” or"new guy was full of shit"

Odd isn’t it?"
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[quote=""] Guy never said he could get those numbers...read the thread again, [/quote] really? Maybe I'll advise you to do the same.

First he said…[quote]“its an mp 112 capable of 600whp lots of drag race mustang guys use them ,flows 35% more then the regular m112”
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…then when told he was daft, he said [quote]“i have been buliding cars for a long time the set up is good for 550awhp ,i upgrade the cooler to ,so before u make stupid coments stay out of my tread thanks”
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So yeah…you’re wrong again.\

[quote=""] And I hate the haters....douchebags who gang up on the guy for modding his car. And he did a good job...still the haters hate. Fucktards. [/quote] You're too fucking sensitive. The haters are bringing reality to the forum. You know what happens with guys like mmrs4? After 6 months they ditch the kit, then contact me or the other 'haters' in some way eventually to say 'shit man, you guys were right. Wish I'd just listened from the get go'. I have honestly had that conversation 4 different times with people who called me 'hater'. I shit you not. I can tell you that justincredible, another 'hater' has had those conversations with people long after the hype died down, the fail train left town and the car owner moved on. \You say you hate the haters? That's because you're one of the enablers. Nobody remembers the coddling enablers. You'll be forgotten about by New Year's Eve....but mmmrs4 will remember the people who tried to set him straight early on (as will the forum members who were maybe tempted by PES, but learned some truth from 'the haters'
[quote=""] No, but I had an MP112 with meth on a V8, which is more than you ever had. So you gonna telll us about your experiences? or is it just all hot-air/internet toughguy vomit??? [/quote] so again...you think this is about experience. Wrong. This is about you being wrong calling out chrisk. Chris was dead right. We've seen what meth does on these MP90 and MP112 kits. Not much. It can't overcome the limitations...and he is absolutely right. You challanged that with 'I've owned this LSX and I had meth and I'm a superstar'..and then the 'you don't know anything because you don't have an MP112'. Typical defensive b.s. We see this alll the time. That's why we post here, where calling you out for being wrong isn't seen as inflammatory or worthy of deletion.

You keep trying to make this about experience, but all I did way earlier before you went on the rampage was point out that you were not right, and were bringing irrelevant experience in to a thread where you called ChrisK wrong. He wasn’t wrong. You were.

FOCYS please ace. FOCYS please ace. FOCYS please ace. FOCYS please ace. FOCYS please ace. FOCYS please ace. FOCYS please ace. FOCYS please ace. :slight_smile:

#65

I had a terminator mustang and I can tell you that the guys are right. I could run all day with a chill box and get below ambient temps. Even on a 85+deg day.

In the end. People don’t always like the truth vs what they want to believe. I would think people should just start to realize when sakimano peaks up and puts down a post. If you argue you should take a second and think cause in most cases people need to just FOCYS

why is it that CV always has the ability to tell people how wrong they are and still have it come across as nice.

#66

Simple, he has class and isn’t emotionally invested in internet arguments.

#67

I warned you…but I didnt think you would get rag-dolled so quickly!

Pharmacist recommendation:
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID45663/images/Preparation_H_suppositories.jpg

which may not be enough due to the pathogenesis of your injury. So head over to your local instacare for some local injections:

http://www.smartpractice.com/Images/Products/Supplies/PhotoLg/40587.jpg

to treat the uncontrolled hemorrhaging and pain

#68

well regarding w/m vs a-w intercoolers and removing heat, its true that the w/m does not remove the energy from that heat from the intake charge. I think that this wording rigidly defines the system. If you do an energy balance of the system its fairly clear.

#69

Looks like our friend Mario Molliere has been busy. He posted today that he was in Florida on business, and decided to hit up Palm Beach International Raceway for a little 1/4 mile drag racin’. Awesome. Then we saw the timeslip. WOW. 11.2, 11.3, 11.4. New fastest RS4 on earth. Or is it…

[quote=mmRS4audi]when for business in west palm last week !had some time to kill !!![did not want to post it but hey maybe that will shut up the haters out there .wrench
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Alright, no problem there…unless you’ve been paying attention

  1. HE LIVES IN RHODE ISLAND?

According to his info on Audizine, he lives in Rhode Island. That’s far from PBIR. So…how far? According to google maps, that’s 23 hrs or 1300 miles!

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/RhodeIslandtoPBIR.jpg

That’s a FUCKTON of driving to do for a ‘business trip’. Who on earth drives from Rhode Island to Palm Beach? Especially someone who just bought a $40,000 car and a $15,000 modlist for it in the past 4 months. So…let’s give him the beiiinefficientficientficientit of the doubt here…he mentioned something about New Jersey. Is that much closer? NOPE! That’s still 1000 miles, or about 16 hrs driving straight through.

So that is a big fishy strike one. But, maybe he’s like John Madden, and refuses to fly.

Now that we know that he is actually notorious thief from vortex, Mario Moliere, it turns out he lives in Florida and us trying to hide his identity. Awesome…thieves are buying RS4 s now.

  1. THE TIMELINE

The weirdest thing to me may be the timeline (if driving for 20 hrs isn’t weird enough, each way). He claims he was at PBIR last week on October 3rd. OK. So you set a BLAZINGLY fast quarter mile time, then posted this later that VERY SAME DAY?

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/Whipplesameday.jpg

Check the timestamp. AZ defaults to California time. Pacific…Florida -3hrs. So he posted that at 11:06 pm Eastern Standard Time. Why is that weird? Don’t forget…he had literally hours before that run 11.2, 11.4, 11.3 at PBIR. So comfortably a couple of hours later he’s ditching the M112 and going whipple, even though our man was peeling off a 11.26 @ 126.4! That’s confusing. If my car was doig that, I’d be damn happy, to say the least. I wouldn’t be posting about rippoing it apart and giving up on it.

Further confusing us all is that a few days AFTER the supposed world record RS4 run, he posted this…

[quote=mmRS4audi Oct 06, 2012]hou cares about quarter mile numbers !!!lots of high power car cant put the power to the ground and u get low result on quarter of miles i had a 800 awhp plus vw 2004 r32 most i did was 11.4 quarter of mile because just spining tires!!!but on the highway thats where you feel the power !!the rs4 is not made for quarter mile track
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That’s an odd comment to make for someone who just drove two and a half thousand miles round trip 3 days earlier to run the fastest ever Audi RS4 quarter mile time.

  1. THE TIMESLIP

The timeslip is really fucked up.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/2012-10-09214725.png

a) The header
Tracks sometimes change the header on the printed timeslips. PBIR does it a lot. On his timeslip, it says ‘2011 National Sport Compact Racing Association Round 1’. Hmm…the biggest dragstrip in the country is still rocking a header from 18 months ago (I believe it was back in Mar2011). That makes no sense.

Let’s check that out. Did anyone else hit PBIR on Wednesday? Yup. This guy did. Note his timeslip header.

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt11/02BlkSS/1D695BE7-52C9-4D3F-A290-B992F6AD4162-7809-00000D837C6C38FA.jpg

Something else about that timeslip from Oct 3rd…it was exactly the same dimensions, in pixels, as the one mmrs4audi posted as his own. Pretty interesting I think. Could just be a co-incidence, but a weird one huh? No other timeslip on all of google images had those dimensions. Just saying.

So let’s again give Mario Moliere the beinefficientit of the doubt. Maybe PBIR left the 2011 Sport Compact header on from March 2011, until AFTER the private event Mario was supposedly at on Wednesday. That would explain why he had that header…and that would explain why the LSX guy above didn’t. All we need is another timeslip from 2012. How about this one? Oops. Guess that solves that part of the riddle.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/1355612.png

b) The ET+RT WIN marker at the bottom of the slip (circled in green)
All tracks show ET (elapsed time) but they also show your reaction time, for bracket racing when you’re heads up with your opponent. Then they add the two up, and show at the bottom of the timeslip Right 1st or Left1st, and show how much time they won by. If we add up the times for MarioMiller/mmRS4Audi vs the cars in the other lanes he was supposedly against, it doesn’t add up. In all three timeslips, the ET+RT winner is off by EXACTLY 1 second. That seems odd. Sounds like someone photoshopped 1 second exactly off the ET. So a shameworthy 12.45 (for someone claiming 600 hp or nearly 500 whp) quickly becomes an 11.45.

c) The times just don’t add up. Simply put, the car is WAY TOO SLOW in the first 1/8th and WAY TOO FAST in the second 1/8th for this to be considered anywhere near believable. Again, suspecting a photoshop job, this makes sense. Let’s examine it. Says he was 8.0 to 8.2 seconds to the 1/8 mile marker. Now…sure he may suck at launching. That would explain the 60 foot. But that wouldn’t explain the 1/8 mile ET. At the 1/8 mile mark, you are almost out of 3rd gear in these cars, and shifting into fourth. He is only about as fast as my stock RS4 record time was at the 1/8 mile. But was he coming on like a train to explain how he is 15 car lengths ahead and 20 MPH faster in trap speed? Fuck no. His 60 foot/330 foot and 660 foot(1/8) times were virtually identical to mine, and his MPH was a hair better at the 1/8. So what happened after the 1/8? Did he turn on nitrous yo? No, he doesn’t have nitrous. He has a modest sized supercharger that would be starting to struggle…not be getting ready to put the greatest 1/8 MPH vs. 1/4 MPH of any B5/6/7 S4/RS4 of all time.

Picking up nearly 40 MPH is INSANE in the quartermile.
For perspective, my 12.75 run I picked up 23 MPH.
On george’s 12.28 run he picked up 23 MPH
On APR’s 11.83 run they picked up 23 MPH (seeing a trend)
On TTS’s 11.4 run they picked up 25 MPH
On mmrs4audi’s run, he picked up 40 MPH!
This is not doable on an M112. I don’t care if it is fueled by gold and unicorn horn and Kate Upton’s panties. Not happening.

You can say ‘I was spinning’ if you want. Great. That would happen on the launch. On one of the runs he was 1.9 (not good, but not detrimental to the next 600 feet of the run for fuck’s sake). On one of the runs he was 1.8 (good enough to ensure the rest of the first half was setup to be awesome…not to basically run like an all motor stock RS4 lol).

SO…we have lots of questions. I can’t wait to hear his answers. I also can’t wait to hear the answers from the guys at PBIR and ROADTESTTV, the youtube channel who are at, and take video of, every dragstrip event at PBIR. Car 6418…who are you?

p.s. a few guys on AZ have noticed that this doesn’t add up. A few others are cheering and patting this guy on the back for lying and making fools of the forum. Let’s take a stroll through the list of ‘I WAS TOO DUMB TO SEE THE FACTS’

CLINT FROM RAI a.ka. AudiA42.0t a.k.a. The Engine Swap Wizard (in his own head) was too dumb to realise he was being had

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/clintistoodumbagain.jpg

He was too dumb twice in the thread actually

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/clintistoodumb.jpg

And my favourite ‘toodumb’ guy…our friend ACE who lashed out and swore and name called, and dropped incorrect information and then disappeared. I hope the autosubscribe is on still on audirevolution…because that means he will see this post. If so…WAY TO GO BROTHER! You made a class AAA ass of yourself.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/aceistoodumb.jpg

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#70

BRAVO!!! I certainly overlooked much of what you pointed out. Though I did catch the header on the slip, didnt think much of it though, figured the track won an award in 2011…in any case, debunking these forum pathological liars in saki fashion, right on!

#71

After Saki’s post, I can now sleep peacefully!

#72

Looks like we can add Jaredd, Mick’s best buddy, to the ‘too dumb to know better’ crew. It will be funny to watch who volunteers to join that team over the next few hours. Once they read what we’ve all seen and posted, the club will struggle to get new members (until the next retard comes along for them to stroke and caress and soothe with their ‘you haters are mean!’ bullshit)

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/whatsonjaredsface.jpg

#73

This is the last nail in the coffin for eaton roots blowers…until another nail pops out and the petting zoo softies have to polish it first…

Not sure whether he never ran at PBIR or photoshopped the time slips

Funniest part of the night is how he thought taking down the picture would somehow do something…all the while it is on here for everyone to see and reference hahaha… his grammar really shows his intelligence

#74

I will leave this here…

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5388368-fs-clutch-master-stage-4-with-steel-flywheel

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5327673-fs-je-pistons

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3055071/page1

#75

Yup. Add me to the list of not doubting ever person to ever do anything with their car and to the list of people that don’t care enough to do the kind of “research” you do.

Either way, hope you have a great day.

#76

Painful - this guy has history…not the good kind.

#77

No wonder he cant spell and is scamming everyone…he lives in the hood, one of many in boynton…figures

#78

that guy makes himself look more and more like ngng everyday

#79

So you prefer deceitful fucks running around spewing lies. They only hinder the advancement of the platform and add false information for people to pick through. What if no one called him out? Would the PES fail train start all over again? And would you be the one yelling…“all aboard” “one way ticket to clown town”

#80

Yeah he would…jared you might as well just suck it up and realize we dont critique anyone for no reason and this example is the icing on the cake as to why we are not haters…we see the truth

I was thinking about this: what was behind this guy doing such a thing? Why would he fake such a large expense all the while not even owning an RS4 or the blower for that matter?

well for one he has a large history of scams. this guy was about to pull off the biggest scam ever! Remember he said he was going to convert to a different blower? He was staging this whole lie to prove some sort of results with his lie, then sell the “PES kit” with the alibi behind it saying he was going to a different blower and rake in the stacks on nothing…genius plan, Ill give him that… if it werent for the guys on this forum someone would be a couple thousand $$$ less

#81

Jared…you were loving the opportunity to fling shit in the face of bigserve. just didn’t quite work out for you did it?

If you were an innocent guy who believed the time I would have just left you off the too dumb list as I did with a few other guys. But you had to go and be all arrogant about it didn’t you. Well…you earned your spot.

#82

Imola…so you don’t even think he gas an RS4 or a blower?

We need photos of his car/license plates

#83

OMFG EPIC FAIL… Looks like the PES and TIAL guys need to start a club.