Stage 1 and 2 are stock internals. Stage 3 is all new. It’s extremely stout. Held the internals from their built motor s4 and rs4 kits. Drove in a stage 2 built motor b6 and it too was exceptional. They have an rs4 built motor ready for the blue car.
It is silly to me because the cars are super driveable and I don’t understand these concerns. Not undermining Oscar Meyer’s question. I have just driven 25 cars tuned by count vohn. I’ve driven 5 this week ranging from approximately 450hp to what must be 700 hp. They are all great daily drivers. He is excellent. It’s funny when he hears one of the ten or so JHM employees pull in to the shop area he is always listening to their cars for anything that doesn’t sound perfect. It’s no secret so many of their competitors call him in for help.
It is ready to rock at all times If you’re Wot. If you’re chilling it’s just a chill rs4.
Interesting, Hmmmm are they working on something in house?
And definitely not underming my question at all, I just appreciate you answering, also have to look at it from our perspective you are now one of the very very few that can legitimately say they have driven RS4’s from stock all the way to stage2 heck you maybe even saw and drove the stage 3 setup. Just probing for as much data as possible.
I have no doubts in the Counts tuning abilities, if I did I wouldn’t have stuck around this long!
Don’t you think it would be sweet and fun to see a RS4 go 9s? 
Nothing wrong with that
yeah I get that, but I think they would do it with an interior if they did. They’re fanatical about some things. I care less about what my car will do with no seats than I do if we ran it full interior but with a one off LS3 swapped in (or 2.7t, etc) . They’re both irrelevant to me benchmark wise but at least the ls3 swapped car represents something you can drive around.
Besides, pulling your interior helps, but it’s not like splitting an atom. I don’t get why shops do it. Seats etc weigh 70-140 lbs depending how far you go with it. On a stock rs4 that might be like gaining 10hp and adding 1 mph/cutting 1 tenth. That’s not going to make or break your kit so who cares.
Forgot to include a picture of Gus in the original post, so here it is in all his dirty glory…
Took JimmyBones excellent advice and ordered all new fluids for the car (coolant, oil, power steering, trans and rear diff) plus a new fuel filter. The car had a new intake manifold installed roughly 3k miles ago so am solid on the carbon clean. Also, have waiting to be installed, 034 motor mounts, Apikol rear diff mount, 034 torque mount, and 034 trans mount. The drivetrain definitely needs some tightening up so am excited to install these goodies!
Damn, I wanted to make it out there to meet everybody but my vacation starts tomorrow.
I’d be very curious to hear the difference between the Stage II RS4 vs Stage II built S4. I’m really hoping that the performance differences between the two engines start to be less drastic in their fully built forms.
Not that it’s any of my business, but what were you doing at JHM? I thought you are in Canada or something.
He was picking up some licence plate frames for me
^^ ;D
Lol I meant was there like an event going on?
He was also picking up my new starter because I’m a cheap bastard
Saki since you drive all three of the following, how does stage 2 B6 S4 compares to stage 1&2. RS4?
Stage 1 s4 is great (this is the famous black JHM B6 S4 with headers that dispatched ngng a couple of times) . This would just murder my exhaust only Rs4
Stage 1 RS4 is even faster
Stage 2 S4 raped the S1 RS4
Stage 2+ RS4 is like a modified GTR and obliterated the others. It’s crazy. I can’t imagine this car trapping under 130.
The S4 built motor will probably be an interesting car. You can buy a dead engine b7 for $6,000 and add $30,000 for a monster mod list and be making crazy power.
Kinda jealous because you probably know more about my engine build than I do.
which one is yours?
Edit just saw your sig. Not it.
I may have seen you engine block though. And rods and pistons
It would be quite interesting to see how both stage II S4&RS4 perform at the strip, any info on that yet?
Shot B6&7 could be attained for the third of it these days, which makes a build program even more attractive.
With respect to the strip, a regular stage 2 JHM RS4 (8 psi, etc) will be pretty similar to a stage 2 S4.
When talking with the JHM guys I said based on the data I gathered, I guess the stage 2 S4 will run around 11.3 @ 125 on pump gas. The stage 2 RS4 as we know already went 11.1 @ 125. The RS4 is pretty effective at accelerating, and the gearing helps that. Since they will both be similar CFM from the same blower, the differences will be small.
They seemed to think 11.5 or so for the stage 2 S4 but I think they’re going to be pleasantly surprised. The car we did some 60-90 mph pbox testing (not full bore 1/4 miles or 60-130 stuff because it’s not finalized) handily beat the stage 1 RS4 that trapped 118. The RS4 had better gas. The stage 2 S4 had crappy California 91. It still crushed it.
I’ll be curious to see what that translates to when I take it to the strip with a 7000+ DA and then when I run it in Vegas next year at Wuste with a 2000 or so DA.