yes, but that was not my point either (that APR hasn’t squeezed big gains from the B8…obviously they have). You found Richi’s comments about APR being stage III when GIAC isn’t even stage II comical. I really don’t put much merit in those comments personally. I can happily drive my RS4 stock for another 6-12 months while I wait to see how all the options for making it better pan out. I don’t think you win any medals or awards for being the first to put out a product. You do however get lauded for putting out the best product.
Look around…everyone has had success with the B8. GIAC is killing it. REVO is killing it (figuratively and literally).
My point was that while APR may have been first out, that doesn’t mean they’re best out. Let’s see what the other guys do and then decide if we can mock them for being slower than APR.
Go back…is ANYONE mocking JHM right now in the B6/7 world for not having the first tune back at the 2004 Audiworld dyno day? Hell no. Nobody gives a shit. Same goes for JHM’s B5 stuff or EPL/AMD in the B5 game. Nobody is saying ‘lol at JHM/EPL/AMD for not having B5 stuff until 2007 when APR/AWE had it in 2004. I will stick with the first guys out of the blocks and be slower even though better options came after’