Saki- wasn’t Paul on stock downpipes on last year’s run? I don’t think he had piggies. I might be wrong though.
And I think both RS4s here just rode out 4th and bumped off limiter to hit 130.
It’s a pretty strong consensus (depending where the gears fall) that the guys who are nuts about 60-130 like to star in 3rd gear at ~45 and ride it through 3rd and shift to 4th. That way you keep the momentum and load on the car and not making that transition right at the start. A lot of the really high hp guys will even start in 4th and ride it all the way to 130 so they have a zero shift time. Typical speaking of turbos where putting heavy load on the car early helps build boost and they have monster torque/hp curves.
Also, if following that shift technique, it usually doesn’t work to take a 0-60 time and subtract it from 0-130 time = 60-130 time. From what I’ve seen most cars will do a better 60-130 than doing that principal. Not by amazing amounts, but by a significant bit nonetheless
Following that shift pattern, stock 996 turbo usually fall in the 12.5-low 13 60-130 time. Flashed + exhaust fall in the the 9.7-10.5 time, turbo swaps fall in the high 7’s to low 6’s with a couple guys breaking into 5’s on stock motor and not “that” many bolt ons. It is worth mentioning most guys are shaving 150-200lbs off the car too which certainly helps.
It’d be interesting for the sake of it it to see what JHM’s B5 would do. Hell it’d be even more interesting to see it go back to the track in full health and really go at it!
Good question. Thought he was?
Here’s your list. says IM, LW rotors, intake, exh, .
IM? No idea what that is. Some guys port and polish their RS4 intake manifold but it’s kind of a waste of time. Not sure that Paul did that. Maybe back when he posted on quattroworld 
intake? There is no way he had an intake on his car.
So not sure if that list is his or if it’s from whatever the car above it in that list was that went 15.0 in the summer.
http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd440/Auditude20T/null_zpsbd1b66a1.jpg
I have tested it. RS4 is faster if it starts in 2nd. Does that count for anything? I realise some 996 owners might start it in 4th or 3rd, but I don’t drive a 996. I also don’t have a turbo to worry about.
You know who loves to start in 4th? Guys with giant turbos and shitty tunes who can’t drive. Guys like killed00S4 and his Tial b5 car that went 5.8 seconds 60-130 and dyno’d 650 whp…but went mid 12s at the strip.
Also, I was showing you what a 996 tip stock did for perspective since you seemed confused about what the RS4 should be doing. It’s right where it should be. Again, that 12.19 car had no tune. My car had no tune.
Pete wrote that stuff- IM is prob the spacers,
Exh is the tubi axle back and intake is the maf 034 hose and k&n drop in
ah ok.
Bouncing off the rev limiter in an RS4 means you get stuck at 128 mph. Did you just extrapolate the time out to 130 (based on the rate at which they were adding MPH right before it)? If you’re hitting the rev limiter, you’re going to lose momentum, and at 130 mph the momentum loss is serious. You can see that you actually lose a big chunk of MPH when you shift into 5th whereas on the 3-4 shift you maintain your MPH and on the 2-3 shift you’re actually still gaining MPH while shifting. Wind resistance at the higher speeds is a helluva force.
Extrapolating can change the time by quite a bit. Sucks for 60-130 to be in an RS4 or manual B8 S4. You have that extra shift.
No both guys said they bounced off limiter and pbox performance tools program had them at over 130 for terminal velocity.
I also bounce off limiter and hit it no problem.
interesting. Maybe I’ll try it again. Pretty sure I got stuck.
Different tire sizes, brands, tread depths sometimes can prevent hitting 130 since its so close.
Yeah intake i considered the 034 MAF Hose and Drop in and IM was the spacers i couldn’t fit the whole thing.
Is the main list saved somewhere? Want to compare my car to some of the ones on your list. You’ve got some rs4 times I think right?
2007 B7 RS4, JHM LWCP, JHM Intake Spacers, JHM LW Rotors F&R, 034 MAF Hose, Tubi Mufflers (axle back), 93 Octane, 19 inch Winter Wheels (6lbs heavier per corner).
DA -2044
50 0
60 1.15
70 2.32
80 3.61
90 4.91
100 6.77
110 8.61
120 10.69
130 13.34
60-90 3.76
60-100 5.62
60-110 7.46
60-120 9.54
60-130 12.19 New RS4 best time.
50-130 13.34
Is that a JHM tune as well? Or any tune?
I’m surprised you go from 60-90 in less than 4 seconds but it takes 8+ seconds to get from 90-130. Is the 60-130 a 2 shift for the RS4? (Assuming you start in 3rd, just asking if you have to go to 5th)
No knocking, just surprised. I figured a modded rs4 would be a bit faster though since they do so well in every other regard. Guess it’s more of the gearing and area under the curve that make for such strong 1/4 info but not as much raw top end power.
It takes 2 and really 3 shifts potentially.
Rs4 taps out 4th at like 128mph. Also you want to start in 2nd if you’re a fast shifter. So really 3 shifts is best.
The 12.19 car had piggies and no tune. I believe he had no cat back either, just tubi mufflers (axle back). NY07RS4. I think it did pretty well, considering. His car in that form would probably have been able to run 12.50 @ 111 or so in great DA he ran that 60-130 at -2000 feet. Compare him to some of the other times up there from the b8 s4s and it looks slow…they’re sometimes running high 10s to low 11s 60-130 but don’t forget they’re doing so sometimes on race gas and with a pretty full modest…and the b8 is just flat out a fast fucking car! . Ny07rs4 is always on 93.
Last night my car went 12.77 60-130 on a nearly flat Road (dropped 6 feet over 2000feet of travel). Density altitude was -900 feet. Just catted jhm downpipes and jhm cat back. I started in 3rd as I wanted to compare with some runs I had done that way last year on the same road. I was 13.95 then, stock, in similar DA. In great DA (-2000) one night I went 13.75 stock.
For some perspective for you since you own one, a stock 996 turbo tip tested by car and driver when it was brand new in '01 went 0-60 in 4.2 and 0-130 in 17.6…thus 60-130 in 13.4
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/porsche-911-turbo-tiptronic-s-road-test
Yes, I had intake manifold spacers (I forgot), I think I had the OEM air filter (makes no difference imo), 034 MAF hose, Tubi cans, LW rotors front and back with my winter wheel set up. I do have coil overs that may or may not weigh less than the DRC, not sure. I was on fumes, the gas light was on and the DA was nuts -2000 range. I started in 3rd and only did one shift to 4th. Bounced off the limiter for almost a second to make sure I hit 130. I did maybe 3 to 4 runs and I think my times were improving with each run - I’m sure one of the guys with the file can confirm or correct me.
Saki- wasn’t Paul on stock downpipes on last year’s run? I don’t think he had piggies. I might be wrong though.
And I think both RS4s here just rode out 4th and bumped off limiter to hit 130.
*** I also had a recent carbon cleaning and a LWCP!! I had to look back to see when I installed things.
It’s a pretty strong consensus (depending where the gears fall) that the guys who are nuts about 60-130 like to star in 3rd gear at ~45 and ride it through 3rd and shift to 4th. That way you keep the momentum and load on the car and not making that transition right at the start. A lot of the really high hp guys will even start in 4th and ride it all the way to 130 so they have a zero shift time. Typical speaking of turbos where putting heavy load on the car early helps build boost and they have monster torque/hp curves.
Also, if following that shift technique, it usually doesn’t work to take a 0-60 time and subtract it from 0-130 time = 60-130 time. From what I’ve seen most cars will do a better 60-130 than doing that principal. Not by amazing amounts, but by a significant bit nonetheless
Following that shift pattern, stock 996 turbo usually fall in the 12.5-low 13 60-130 time. Flashed + exhaust fall in the the 9.7-10.5 time, turbo swaps fall in the high 7’s to low 6’s with a couple guys breaking into 5’s on stock motor and not “that” many bolt ons. It is worth mentioning most guys are shaving 150-200lbs off the car too which certainly helps.
It’d be interesting for the sake of it it to see what JHM’s B5 would do. Hell it’d be even more interesting to see it go back to the track in full health and really go at it!
Yeah i believe that was your last time and the fastest one. Really strong run for a basically stock RS4. Can’t wait to see what it’ll do the way it sits now. DA has been very similar to your last runs all week, would be cool to compare and see how much you gained. I wouldn’t doubt if you could hit 11.4-11.5 with all the stuff you have done now. That’s awesome for an N/A RS4…
I wish that AMD RS4 would come out, i’d love to run him with him on pump and me on race.
Good question. Thought he was?
Here’s your list. says IM, LW rotors, intake, exh, .
IM? No idea what that is. Some guys port and polish their RS4 intake manifold but it’s kind of a waste of time. Not sure that Paul did that. Maybe back when he posted on quattroworld
intake? There is no way he had an intake on his car.
So not sure if that list is his or if it’s from whatever the car above it in that list was that went 15.0 in the summer.
http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd440/Auditude20T/null_zpsbd1b66a1.jpg
I have tested it. RS4 is faster if it starts in 2nd. Does that count for anything? I realise some 996 owners might start it in 4th or 3rd, but I don’t drive a 996. I also don’t have a turbo to worry about.
You know who loves to start in 4th? Guys with giant turbos and shitty tunes who can’t drive. Guys like killed00S4 and his Tial b5 car that went 5.8 seconds 60-130 and dyno’d 650 whp…but went mid 12s at the strip.
Also, I was showing you what a 996 tip stock did for perspective since you seemed confused about what the RS4 should be doing. It’s right where it should be. Again, that 12.19 car had no tune. My car had no tune.