Where are all the fast EPL 1/4 mile times? (NO FATS, NO 60-130, NO DYNOS)

[sakimano]

The whole point of the thread is to gather information on EPL tuned cars and their performance, and to answer the question of why they don’t show up on ANY of the quartermile lists. It is not to make a conclusion from 2 quarter mile times. It is to make a conclusion from a history of performance that is disconnected from their dyno dominance. Nevermind the rhetoric. Nevermind the grandstanding. SOMEONE…ANYONE…please provide some data.

Further, the thread sought to have someone, anyone, provide ANY kind of explanation for this disconnect, or to provide quarter mile data that is more aligned with the EPL dyno success.

Nobody has provided any shred of an explanation for why EPL cars don’t do well in the quarter mile lists on the various sites, nor has anyone provided any great results that the various lists weren’t aware of. Not even tweets, their biggest fanboy. That speaks VOLUMES.

[_F.A.W]

not even reading the rest because it’s useless to bother since you haven’t addressed the OP at any time here…but I will quote this to show how insane you are.

The 770 3.0L car, when it went to the track had just put down barely over 600whp. Thats what it did before it went PERIOD.

‘barely over 600 whp’ (referring to the car that went mid 12s @ 128)

You act like that’s nothing, thus his times/trap speed are understandable. Here’s a newsflash:

That’s Ferrari Enzo power.
That’s Koeniggseggeggeggg power.
That’s Reventon power.
That’s 50 whp MORE than full bolt on GTR power.
That’s 50 whp MORE than Ferrari 599GTO power.
That’s 100 whp MORE than tuned 5.5 TT CLS63 power.

This is why you guys are confused and accepting of these failures…you are brainwashed by the success/failure benchmark set by other EPL cars based on numbers provided by the tuner. You act like 500 whp cars run high 11s @ 120. You act like 600 whp cars trapping around 130 is fantastic.

Once you open your eyes to what other cars are accomplishing at the dragstrip and what those cars are dynoing elsewhere, you’ll start to have an appreciation for the skepticism levied EPL’s way when their cars do FAR WORSE while dynoing FAR MORE. Until then, you will be playing with your head in the clouds.

Nope never denied it was a horrible run. I believe I actually said it was. I’m saying it’s not enough evidence for your conclusions. It’s one track visit dude, with people who have never been there nor launched. It’s not
Enough. If I go and I am wrong, I will admit. I hope you admit you were wrong about AMD/EPL and not just say “oh well, it should be doing that anyways”
No, Saki, you would owe them apology for the multiple posts where you say they can’t tune. Because your posts would be wrong. I’m leaving this discussion with this.
You have insufficient evidence sir, sorry I don’t agree with your theory.

The weather on the East coast will be wonderful this weekend. Take your almost 600whp car to the track, minus any excuses. Run it 5 times, then report back with all 5 time slips. If that’s imposible, you are just making excuses and helping Saki come up with more ridicule of the people who’s buttocks you are trying to defend.

[primetime]

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So will you be running your car and posting some timeslips and vids?

[_F.A.W]

[quote=“primetime,post:103,topic:3102”]

So will you be running your car and posting some timeslips and vids?

I will try to get a pass in on My way to Md. this weekend, minus a video.

I only suggested he do that because, it will give him an opportunity to prove that Saki is wrong, exspecially being that he has an AMD car.

[sakimano]

there are dozens of huge power EPL cars out there (500-700 whp Tial cars).

there are dozens more big power EPL cars out there (K04/RS6hybrid/RS6).

Plenty have hit the strip. Two have made the list. Tons have buried their timeslips. Where are all the fast cars? Hell at this point anything under 12.25 is fast for EPL as far as this list goes.

Would someone like to start a thread like this one on Audizine requesting EPL tuned B5 S4 timeslips? Maybe there are a bunch over there that the guys can post up.

Tweetss4estate should start a thread. I can’t think of any reason he wouldn’t???

[tweetss4estate]

That’s false, the title itself implies slander. This thread was meant to make fun of the data you had accrued and rub it in the faces of people who had a bad track day.
If it was to make a connection I would think you would allow in reasons as to why the cars didn’t perform well.
Every reason was excused and called implausible. My point is (and will be until we have more data) you have very little data to back up your claims.

I am not, by anymeans their biggest fan boy. I am, though, the only one standing up to your Stalin-like tyrannical reign on this forum.

The whole point of the thread is to gather information on EPL tuned cars and their performance, and to answer the question of why they don’t show up on ANY of the quartermile lists. It is not to make a conclusion from 2 quarter mile times. It is to make a conclusion from a history of performance that is disconnected from their dyno dominance. Nevermind the rhetoric. Nevermind the grandstanding. SOMEONE…ANYONE…please provide some data.

Further, the thread sought to have someone, anyone, provide ANY kind of explanation for this disconnect, or to provide quarter mile data that is more aligned with the EPL dyno success.

Nobody has provided any shred of an explanation for why EPL cars don’t do well in the quarter mile lists on the various sites, nor has anyone provided any great results that the various lists weren’t aware of. Not even tweets, their biggest fanboy. That speaks VOLUMES.

[tweetss4estate]

Well that can’t be true, I believe Bigern ran better than a 11.9X thats just off the top of my head.

MAYBE I SHOULD OH WAIT I AM!!

there are dozens of huge power EPL cars out there (500-700 whp Tial cars).

there are dozens more big power EPL cars out there (K04/RS6hybrid/RS6).

Plenty have hit the strip. Two have made the list. Tons have buried their timeslips. Where are all the fast cars? Hell at this point anything under 12.25 is fast for EPL as far as this list goes.

Would someone like to start a thread like this one on Audizine requesting EPL tuned B5 S4 timeslips? Maybe there are a bunch over there that the guys can post up.

Tweetss4estate should start a thread. I can’t think of any reason he wouldn’t???

[tweetss4estate]

You must have missed my post. I am working at a theatre in VA (if you want to meet up and run, lets do it) I don’t get nights off because I’m the show and I also don’t get weekends off. The run ends June 24th and I will try to get to a strip soon after that. (really it won’t be until July because right after that I head to IN to see my girlfriend in her show right after my show is over.)

Like I said, if you want to meet up, I’m not too far from Maryland I can P.M. you where I am and my number.

BTW I made 53X.WHP on pump gas and meth, which is what I’m running right now, its not 600 so lets not act like it is all the time.

not even reading the rest because it’s useless to bother since you haven’t addressed the OP at any time here…but I will quote this to show how insane you are.

The 770 3.0L car, when it went to the track had just put down barely over 600whp. Thats what it did before it went PERIOD.

‘barely over 600 whp’ (referring to the car that went mid 12s @ 128)

You act like that’s nothing, thus his times/trap speed are understandable. Here’s a newsflash:

That’s Ferrari Enzo power.
That’s Koeniggseggeggeggg power.
That’s Reventon power.
That’s 50 whp MORE than full bolt on GTR power.
That’s 50 whp MORE than Ferrari 599GTO power.
That’s 100 whp MORE than tuned 5.5 TT CLS63 power.

This is why you guys are confused and accepting of these failures…you are brainwashed by the success/failure benchmark set by other EPL cars based on numbers provided by the tuner. You act like 500 whp cars run high 11s @ 120. You act like 600 whp cars trapping around 130 is fantastic.

Once you open your eyes to what other cars are accomplishing at the dragstrip and what those cars are dynoing elsewhere, you’ll start to have an appreciation for the skepticism levied EPL’s way when their cars do FAR WORSE while dynoing FAR MORE. Until then, you will be playing with your head in the clouds.

Nope never denied it was a horrible run. I believe I actually said it was. I’m saying it’s not enough evidence for your conclusions. It’s one track visit dude, with people who have never been there nor launched. It’s not
Enough. If I go and I am wrong, I will admit. I hope you admit you were wrong about AMD/EPL and not just say “oh well, it should be doing that anyways”
No, Saki, you would owe them apology for the multiple posts where you say they can’t tune. Because your posts would be wrong. I’m leaving this discussion with this.
You have insufficient evidence sir, sorry I don’t agree with your theory.

The weather on the East coast will be wonderful this weekend. Take your almost 600whp car to the track, minus any excuses. Run it 5 times, then report back with all 5 time slips. If that’s imposible, you are just making excuses and helping Saki come up with more ridicule of the people who’s buttocks you are trying to defend.

[tweetss4estate]

there are dozens of huge power EPL cars out there (500-700 whp Tial cars).

there are dozens more big power EPL cars out there (K04/RS6hybrid/RS6).

Plenty have hit the strip. Two have made the list. Tons have buried their timeslips. Where are all the fast cars? Hell at this point anything under 12.25 is fast for EPL as far as this list goes.

Also, how about you get a list going of all the huge power EPL cars while I gather some 1/4 data, I’m not doing all of the work for you.

[Meistah]

Overthrow SakiStalin! REVOLUTION!!!

Lol I think a lot of us agree with Saki’s assessment of the EPL car’s lack of performance. an 11.9x is nothing exciting for the stated HP #'s. If we want to go off the dyno numbers they should be running low 11s all day.TTS is a perfect example, we ragged on them, they posted solid results, now we respect them. If EPL or one of their customers does the same, then the same will happen.

[tweetss4estate]

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So will you be running your car and posting some timeslips and vids?

I would really like to meet up with you. Maybe on my way back from VA (25th) it would be evening. maybe get a beer and do a few pulls or just hang.
Do you think you’ll be heading to Waterfest?

[tweetss4estate]

I know why you would think that and how it would seem. the 11.9x better car was a regular RS6 car, stock block. I’m just sick of Saki not being patient enough to let me do it. He know’s I’m the only one who is said I would go to the track on this site. My brother has spoken with him, hung out with him, yet he still wants to be macho and all “I’m calling you out bitches!”

Really thats why I’ve kept on going. Not that I don’t believe in what I said, that was the motivation to my persistence. I know he will respect the times if they look good, I’m asking him for faith and trust that I will do it. Yet, he still feels its neccessary to continue his callout.

AND he never admits when he’s wrong, he just goes “well it should do that” or maybe he’s thinking “I am so awesome, I called them out and now everyone knows the truth because of ME!”

That’s all, I will go when I can, I’m not afraid of breaking shit anymore, just gonna spend thousands this summer on trans/axels/rear diffs proving saki wrong

Overthrow SakiStalin! REVOLUTION!!!

Lol I think a lot of us agree with Saki’s assessment of the EPL car’s lack of performance. an 11.9x is nothing exciting for the stated HP #'s. If we want to go off the dyno numbers they should be running low 11s all day.TTS is a perfect example, we ragged on them, they posted solid results, now we respect them. If EPL or one of their customers does the same, then the same will happen.

[sakimano]

there are dozens of huge power EPL cars out there (500-700 whp Tial cars).

there are dozens more big power EPL cars out there (K04/RS6hybrid/RS6).

Plenty have hit the strip. Two have made the list. Tons have buried their timeslips. Where are all the fast cars? Hell at this point anything under 12.25 is fast for EPL as far as this list goes.

Also, how about you get a list going of all the huge power EPL cars while I gather some 1/4 data, I’m not doing all of the work for you.

dude I probably spent 30 hrs on this already…populating it with all the B5 times from s4biturbo, all the B6/7 times from here, and all the B8 times from AZ.

Time for someone else to step up. Stalimano is tired.

The thread on AZ should do it. EPL will have a list I’m sure (although timeslips/proof may be another story).

[tweetss4estate]

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/488837-Calling-all-EPL-cars-that-have-been-to-the-1-4-mile?p=7657656#post7657656

Here you are sir.

[tweetss4estate]

there are dozens of huge power EPL cars out there (500-700 whp Tial cars).

there are dozens more big power EPL cars out there (K04/RS6hybrid/RS6).

Plenty have hit the strip. Two have made the list. Tons have buried their timeslips. Where are all the fast cars? Hell at this point anything under 12.25 is fast for EPL as far as this list goes.

Also, how about you get a list going of all the huge power EPL cars while I gather some 1/4 data, I’m not doing all of the work for you.

dude I probably spent 30 hrs on this already…populating it with all the B5 times from s4biturbo, all the B6/7 times from here, and all the B8 times from AZ.

Time for someone else to step up. Stalimano is tired.

The thread on AZ should do it. EPL will have a list I’m sure (although timeslips/proof may be another story).

I like the sound of SakiStalin better.

[sakimano]

do you want to work on the arctic railway? Then STFU,

The stalin reference makes no sense anyway. Stalin was in power. I’m just one of the people here. Just like you.

Saw your thread. You need to ensure they include timeslips and or video. Not just ‘I went 11.2 @ 150 once.’ as that’s not getting on the list.

[quote=tweetss4estate]I’m trying to perfect a data collection made by a certian Mr. I’veGotMono (on a different website). Could you guys list your input as such:
stage/mods/and boost
ET./MPH
I’d really appreciate it guys.
[/quote]
You also need to stop the petty name calling. You’re a fucking theatre major who is doing live theatre in some random Virginian town. The mean girls burn book on you is about 1200 pages long with that info alone.

[tweetss4estate]

It doesn’t matter who I am (actually I’m a business communications major). If it really offends you I will stop.

do you want to work on the arctic railway? Then STFU,

The stalin reference makes no sense anyway. Stalin was in power. I’m just one of the people here. Just like you.

Saw your thread. You need to ensure they include timeslips and or video. Not just ‘I went 11.2 @ 150 once.’ as that’s not getting on the list.

[quote=tweetss4estate]I’m trying to perfect a data collection made by a certian Mr. I’veGotMono (on a different website). Could you guys list your input as such:
stage/mods/and boost
ET./MPH
I’d really appreciate it guys.

You also need to stop the petty name calling. You’re a fucking theatre major who is doing live theatre in some random Virginian town. The mean girls burn book on you is about 1200 pages long with that info alone.
[/quote]

[Meistah]

Lol first post in the thread is a veiled excuse.

[_F.A.W]

You must have missed my post. I am working at a theatre in VA (if you want to meet up and run, lets do it) I don’t get nights off because I’m the show and I also don’t get weekends off. The run ends June 24th and I will try to get to a strip soon after that. (really it won’t be until July because right after that I head to IN to see my girlfriend in her show right after my show is over.)

Like I said, if you want to meet up, I’m not too far from Maryland I can P.M. you where I am and my number.

BTW I made 53X.WHP on pump gas and meth, which is what I’m running right now, its not 600 so lets not act like it is all the time.

not even reading the rest because it’s useless to bother since you haven’t addressed the OP at any time here…but I will quote this to show how insane you are.

The 770 3.0L car, when it went to the track had just put down barely over 600whp. Thats what it did before it went PERIOD.

‘barely over 600 whp’ (referring to the car that went mid 12s @ 128)

You act like that’s nothing, thus his times/trap speed are understandable. Here’s a newsflash:

That’s Ferrari Enzo power.
That’s Koeniggseggeggeggg power.
That’s Reventon power.
That’s 50 whp MORE than full bolt on GTR power.
That’s 50 whp MORE than Ferrari 599GTO power.
That’s 100 whp MORE than tuned 5.5 TT CLS63 power.

This is why you guys are confused and accepting of these failures…you are brainwashed by the success/failure benchmark set by other EPL cars based on numbers provided by the tuner. You act like 500 whp cars run high 11s @ 120. You act like 600 whp cars trapping around 130 is fantastic.

Once you open your eyes to what other cars are accomplishing at the dragstrip and what those cars are dynoing elsewhere, you’ll start to have an appreciation for the skepticism levied EPL’s way when their cars do FAR WORSE while dynoing FAR MORE. Until then, you will be playing with your head in the clouds.

Nope never denied it was a horrible run. I believe I actually said it was. I’m saying it’s not enough evidence for your conclusions. It’s one track visit dude, with people who have never been there nor launched. It’s not
Enough. If I go and I am wrong, I will admit. I hope you admit you were wrong about AMD/EPL and not just say “oh well, it should be doing that anyways”
No, Saki, you would owe them apology for the multiple posts where you say they can’t tune. Because your posts would be wrong. I’m leaving this discussion with this.
You have insufficient evidence sir, sorry I don’t agree with your theory.

The weather on the East coast will be wonderful this weekend. Take your almost 600whp car to the track, minus any excuses. Run it 5 times, then report back with all 5 time slips. If that’s imposible, you are just making excuses and helping Saki come up with more ridicule of the people who’s buttocks you are trying to defend.

Sorry I don’t think I’ve ever seen the particulars of what your car did on the dyno. Please feel free to enlighten us if possible. Do you have a true race gas file, or just the one you mentioned? Don’t let Saki discourage you from posting your results.

[spturks]

EPL/AMD has their customers sign “confideniality contracts” ,where they are not to post their quarter mile times unless they are decent(thats why you dont see people posting their times after building 600+whp cars). why else would gearhead1186 spend all that time and money to build his 700whp 770amd/epl car just to strip it ??? because he could not even trap 130 so he pulled his 770s out and put in gts with a 3liter crank and custom headers and blah blah blah. he said he would post the times the day the tracks opened on east coast and then lied and said he never tracked it before deciding to strip his $20k build right after he finished. TYPICAL EPL/AMD BULLSHIT