I’m also confused how it can be fail when I’m putting my hand up and I’m admitting I need to learn how to drive it at the track.
I I think he is saying it’s fail because the b5 world in general leans on graphs and logs when this don’t go the right way at the strip. Saying it’s a ten second car if you can drive it better is a loooolong shot. It’s not just the driving… It’s the setup. He’s saying don’t be a b5 cliché talking about wouldve/could’ve and calling anything a XX second car without running it.
Personally I don’t think you’re getting this car with that turbo and this tune into the tens. Not unless you change a few things, like adding nitrous and/or hiring someone to drive it. Even then I don’t think it would be easy for a superstar driver to get it into the tens without spray .
On the spray, that’s a whole different story.
Lots of giant turbo guys think they have a ten second car just because they have the mph of other ten second cars. Guys like killed00s4 come to mind. He trapped around 130 and referred to his car as a 10 second car easy. Problem is he ran 12.2. Thing is if we look at the other ten second cars, they’re dead in the powerband the whole track not spooling at 5000. They all have built motors and run big rpms. AND they can drive like a mother fucker. Marc, guru and jaybquick that is.
Seriously just read the post above mine that sakimano wrote…its a 50times better way of saying what I say below…
No one said anything other then respoces to your posts. Your responses are in line with what every other b5 guy says when this happens.
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Are all I jeed to fix…here are some sweet logs…no one said data is bad…people have been tuning cars for 40 years without logs…your data and your comments dont line up.
I personally think your hopeing tyere is some majic bullet in the tune and some how you have convinced yourself that there is .9 of a second between the two…did you get off the throttle and ooen the door at the 330 mark to check and see if the tires still had pressure…your for all pourposious a second off where you say you can be…You are not the first b5 guy to do what you habe done amd your not the first one to have the samw list of excuses…
Reality is your turbo spools way late your power band has been effected as saki said the car is doing very little till 3rd gear…area under the curve…
If there is a man for the job… I think you can pull it off…ill say thst again…we have just heard all these excuses 50 times already from others that did the samw thing you have done…your not even close with this set up to 10s unless you cange stuff big time
If you pick up .9 between driving and the tune…ill appoligize for not believing you sucked that bad at both…lol jist fucking with you on the last part…I do hope you see where we are commjng from…get back out there and have fun
I guess where we differ is that you guys are acting like the car is already at the limit and I’m just making excuses… everything I said is not excuses but explanations. If you take them as excuses then I guess so be it. I’m not going to sit here and try to convince you of the facts lol.
The fact is the car needs a few things before it’ll be perfect for the track and I need a lot more practice lol.
As for the turbo and spool there is a reason the car has nitrous anti lag… lol. I just didn’t use it at he track because I wanted to nail the launch and shifting first… but there I go making excuses again right? lol
I’ll refrain from posting any more plots here… but I’ll post my next time slips for you when I go back.
Cheers guys.
Who guys are acting like you’re at the limit?
I said you are not likely to go tens with this setup. I know you can make loads of changes but I don’t think you’re going to spool the turbo much earlier (your biggest obstacle at the strip where you start out going 0 MPH) with tuning or driving.
Anyway looking forward to seeing round two. Shame it’s getting hot. Hopefully by fall when it’s cold out you can go and kick the shit out of the leader board.
What was the density altitude when you went?
good job getting some runs in. best of luck improving on them
Thanks!
Im actually trying to help. What Im saying is just like with most B5 guys they either don’t know or don’t want ot admit.
It started with you not listening and saying the same thing.
Then you posted like 3 graphs.
here is what I said.
you respoinded with another graph.
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As far as stage 3+ B5 cars… here’s an overlay of my car vs a very well tuned FT21 car.
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[quote] I wanted to nail the launch and shifting first… but there I go making excuses again right? lol
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[quote] I’m not going to sit here and try to convince you of the facts lol.
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What we are nicely trying to tell you is. FACTUALLY your car has a for shit power band. Anti lag and pro shifting isn’t going to fix that. Sure you have room and you should do better. a full second better… thats a bit of a stretch. Its your combination that kept you in the 11.7 range not your shifting and lack of antilag. Spry the car in first where you have no power and bring it back in quick in second and you will get the time your looking for.
Like I said. With every b5 guy that builds a car with a power band that dosen’t start till 5k they will show 50 graphs showing how great there cars are… well that graph is for shit if your in the real world. Your car predictibly wen’t 11.7 due to the set up not due to the driver. Look .2 maybe .3 can still be hiding there. That still puts you miles away from a 10.
I would never want a car like yours. I like a different power band. I would rather go faster in a RS4 with a supercharger that makes probably 100+whp less… Thats me tho…Im not looking to bash if you want us to lie to you then we can… If you want people that are going to be honest and say BT this looks good but you have a serious issue here. Its not your shifting its not your launch… Your goals are far from being due to those two issuies… Then your in the rifht spot. Or you can go to AZ and have 16 year olds and 20 guys with non running B5s pat you on the back and say how great this is.
Its still great. just looking to keep you a little more in check. One hot rod guy to another. If you said your goals were to go 132 in the 1/4 then you did great. You wanted to go 10s and think without the bottle on this set up its just driving and a few tweeks… no bro… its more hten that…
I swear you aren’t listening to a word I say. You think you know my car and seem to think you know how I drove the car from an ET and mph. So since you know so much I’m going to save myself the waste of time replying anymore.
You own a B5 its cool. Its called B5ittous dude…I don’t know if your not smart enough to realize… your not the first person to own a B5 and do this right…so far all of them end up this way…also did you know your provided a link to a video of this pass… maybe you didn’t. In that video you can watch the hood of the car… you can see how long the hood dips down between shifts or how long it isn’t dipping down between shifts…and our 1.8 60 foot shows you were scared to launch the car ::)…haha anyway. Sure… Its all your shifting dude thats it. LOL B5 guys…next it will be your clutch and then more tweeks needed to the tune. The list wont stop. The good thing is you can fix this with your Nitrous. Its your power band dude not your shifting.
Doesn’t look like the shifts on 2-3, 3-4 went bad at all. Can’t see / hear the 1-2
British T, it’s your car, post as many logs as you want. Don’t let people discourage you from posting what you believe to better important to you. ChrisK is just giving you his opinion. He has the right to voice his opinion just as you have the right to post logs. Don’t let people get you upset so easily and please don’t follow in the footsteps of Jibber, tweets, nycVR6 and the rest of the guys who talked up their cars abilities, but never showed any results. Don’t quit this forum because a couple people don’t have 100% faith in your abilities. Dude, you tuned your car and others. If you have too, TUNE-OUT ChrisK and continue to do what you feel is beneficial to the future of your cars performance.
I think that the next time you hit the track you should shed some weight, car parts, (lighter wheels)and see what it does. Do whatever it takes to run the 10 sec pass, then focus on other aspects of how to make it run better full weight. Also go to Arco, or EnglishTown, so that when you run your 10 sec pass and you will eventually with your determination, people wont tell you to go to a different Track for whatever reasons thinkable. Also stop telling people that you need to learn how to drive, it is irrelevant and yes it is an excuse. Your car ran what it ran on the day you took it to the track. Good luck.
waaaat… did you say?
Looks like the first motor has now been blown, and he has installed another motor. I can’t remember the whole motor 1 and motor 2 thing, i.e. why there were two etc.
Anyway, it’s in and lots more fats logs posted. Not sure if he’s going back to the strip in the fall.
I actually had high hopes for this amd this guy… turns out after the last track run and h8m faceimg thr music that he is nist another big talker that likes to pat himself on the back alot…after the last let down expect a big run this time he womt go without nitrous. …
The first motor was temporary…the second is suppose to be a 3l
BT thinks the nitrous solenoid stuck open (N02 is suppose to turn off @25psi) which caused the block mains to fail due to the excessive power since the logs showed ~1000+whp which is 200+whp more than usual. He is only using the N02 to aid in spooling his turbo…
From what I understand, the block internals survived and he just swapped his broken s4 block for an rs4 block (much stronger than s4 block) so he could make more power without fear of block failure. The final motor is suppose to be a 3.0L with custom bullet proofing techniques/parts.
Carry on…
No tune safeties for issues like that?
Tuning for meth, nitrous etc. isn’t nearly as easy as it looks.
Hi guys, did you miss me?
I got over my temper tantrum and decided to come say hi again lol.
Gone through a few revisions of hardware (and motors) since I last posted lol.
I should be taking the car to PRP for the Pittsburgh Classic VW/Audi event next Sunday. So hopefully we’ll have some new track run results then 