It’s pretty likely a stage II tune from any of the tuners will be the same…if the timing is reasonable. I think you could squeeze a couple degrees of timing from APR 93 or 100, if you knew you were always using good gas and gas for the right season. If GIAC takes advantage of that, there may be a tenth to gain. But so far, the tune looks like it hasn’t learned from the APR v1 issues, WRT the load map.
That has more to do with your shift than the software. You gain probably 0.2 seconds on a shift that I can see on the graphs. Switching the two drivers (having you drive the stage 2 car) to the other person’s car… you will see more of a difference between the two cars, especially with a lower speed start.
I agree that this will likely be the case. It would be awesome (for me especially) if the GIAC stage 2 is a huge improvement over what APR has to offer, but I would expect the overall performance to be extremely close. I haven’t driven any APR cars, but I would say that the AWE/GIAC combo on my cars feel a refined as a factory tune which is a huge plus for me. With past tunes on other cars, I often had issues with driveability etc but not this time. 8)
I wonder if it makes sense for GIAC/AWE to make a smaller pulley for 2013 DSG cars to exploit their 6500 RPM shift points. As far as I understand, current APR St.II maxes out supercharger to 7200 RPM - rev limiter of a manual B8. Theoretically smaller pulley that can max out SC already at 6500 RPM can give the same peak HP as manual B8, but better TQ lower.
Lol Tsivas…nice admission on your part. FWIW nobody’s car is as much of a VCDS log monster as yours, the flow your car produces puts both Primetimes and Bears cars to shame. What’s awesome is we have a bit of a challenge here:
The first 6MT in the 11s…who’s it gonna be?
1.) the professor: 6MT APR S2 V2 104 tune
2.) the charger: 6MT GIAC S2 with test pipes
3.) the works car: 6MT GIAC S2 ex-awe car
4.) the wildman: 6MT APR S2 V2 with headers. 492whp Eurotuner special
5.) the big shot: 6MT APR S2 V2 beta with headers
How many tenths do you get by putting it in dynamic versus auto? Once I know I have a viable clutch alternative that I can afford, I’ll hit the strip more and learn how to launch my car. Until then, my 6MT won’t be the one. After then it still won’t be the one.