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Yes, that’s him.

Nice guy. I had sold my fast intentions and JHM downpipes to him last year, but then I had to unsell them to him when the guy who bought my car decided he wanted to keep them on.

I can see where he’s coming from…however I don’t understand his problem.

The story I ALWAYS tell (and you’re about to hear again) is this

when I first got tuned in Detroit in Feb 2010, I drove the car from the shop back to my hotel, and was like ‘WHAT THE FUCK HAVE I DONE!!!’ My silky smoothe car was all of a sudden trying to kill me. The drone made my ears want to bleed, and the throttle response made me look like a fucking retard, so all I could do was go low speeds in big gears to avoid bucking the car like a rookie driver. Of course, that put me in the drone zone around 1000-2000 RPM.

JHM’s tuner the next day said ‘let’s go for a drive in your car and make sure everything is ok’. So we did

He hooked his VAGCOM cable up and off we went with me driving.

So I asked him about drone, and he showed me…don’t get on the throttle in 5th gear at 1500 RPM and you’re ok. If you’re going through the drone zone RPMs, just go easy on throttle and you won’t get drone.

So I asked him about the bucky throttle…felt like 10% = 90% now. He said ‘ok, let’s log throttle while we drive’.

He told me ‘give me what you think is 25% and hold it’…so I did. He showed me the laptop and it was ticking along at 22-26%.
He told me ‘give me what you think is 50% and hold it’…so I did. He showed me the laptop and it was ticking along at 46-52%.
He told me ‘give me what you think is 75%’…and you can guess the rest. BANG ON.

If you do the above test on a stock car, 25% pedal position gives you like 10%. 50% gives you like 30%. 75% gives you like 100%. It’s fucked.

JHM turns the throttle into drive by cable. It just reminds you how

a) shitty the stock tune is, and how it’s written for people who can afford $65,000 cars (a.k.a. 60 year old fat men)
b) bad you are at modulating the throttle.

The best trick to deal with the throttle in 1st gear when starting or going through a parking garage at low speeds…is to wedge the right edge of your right foot up against the right side of the footwell, so it’s ‘rooted’…and isn’t bobbing up and down.

If you free float your foot, you’ll hit the pedal too hard…then the car lurches…then you fall back…then you let off the gas…then you fall forward…then you hit the gas hard again…then the car lurches…then you fall back.

It’s as simple as this for anyone with reasonable driving skill. You just have to know what you’re doing. Some people are terrible at this stuff and for them, maybe a tiptronic or DSG is the solution.

Totally confused. I doubt JHM turns the throttle from a load-table based system into a virtual drive-by-cable system…do they?

They make it a 1:1 ratio, input vs. output.

IE; if you press the pedal down 15%, the throttle opens 15%.

I’d imagine this is done in the table(s) associated with throttle pedal position input vs. throttle plate angle etc. I don’t know the terms but you get the idea.

I have to make a mental adjustment everytime I switch from the B5 back to my B7, it doesn’t take long but to hear what some of those clowns are posting is beyond me. Euro is right, it’s a v8 for crying out loud, what a bunch of girls.

Normally you make a load request with the accelerator pedal, and the load request translates to a throttle angle based on accelerator (edit) position, MAF, MAP, etc. It’s unlikely JHM made the throttle angle track directly with the accelerator?

Not true, I’m hating on you right now.

Is this guy for real???

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/Screenshot_2013-03-08-02-27-18-1_zps4bb87b7e.jpg

^^From the JHM RS4 group buy thread? If so, lulwut? That’s like saying “hey guys I made dinner please eat it it’s the best but now I’m going out to eat”.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/529754-2013-S6-VS-Stage2-S4-nitrous

pure lulz

So stock s6 on pump gas? vs. Fully modified b8 s4 on race gas and with a 100 shot of nitrous

Those will be some good races! lol

The s6 appears to be a mid twelve at 110-115 car. I would sure hope even a tune pulley b8 on race gas would win.

Interestingly in the first race the b8 didn’t catch up till around 14 seconds…in other words 120 mph. Either he went really late or the b8 would struggle to get out of the 12s. Who tuned it?

Also it’s a shame we had to hear the b8…it sounded horrible. I kept waiting for someone with a leaf blower to walk in front of the car at the beginning when you could hear it revving. I don’t get how he has launch control but he is lilting the throttle right before they go??? The s6 is practically silent. Needs moar exhaust.

I have to say I enjoy reading westwest888’s comments.
And although I wouldn’t consider it a fair race, that s4 is pretty quick nonetheless with its nitrous and race gas.

Thanks for sharing Paper… Interesting vid IMO…

Race1: Did he spray and at what point? Either way he should have done much better from a dig IMO… Looks like they launched about the same time with a small advantage to the S6…
Race 2: Did he spray?
Race 3: What I would expect, many bus lengths…

The S4 should still win even when the S6 is tuned assuming he sprays…

No doubt the S6 is geared well and launches good but so does the S4… The gearing is very close…
S4
1st: 3.69
2nd: 2.24
3rd: 1.56
4th: 1.18
5th: 0.92
6th: 0.75
7th: 0.62
Final: 3.88
S6
1st 3.692
2nd 2.150
3rd 1.406
4th 1.025
5th 0.787
6th 0.625
7th 0.519
Final Drive 4.093

Race 1 no spray and the S4 catches up to the S6 around 100 and then starts to pass
Race 2 no spray
Race 3 spray, I don’t remember what RPM the nitrous is set to start spraying but I think it’s somewhere between 2300-2500 all the way to ~6500 I’ll find out.
The S4 had an extra 400lbs of ballast in it and this guy runs almost nothing but race gas like you. He just got the 2.2 flash on his car, I don’t know if that makes any difference at all on DSG cars, I wouldn’t think so. If you watch the video of go Zoe racing his stock S6 against is S4, his race was on a short strip but his S6 was ahead the whole time.

Ya the B8’s exhaust is loud as hell, I would never run that exhaust on my car. But the guy loves it. As soon as APR has a tune for this S6 were going to redo these races.

you said the S4 caught up at 100 but was it not more like 120

it was around 15 seconds in, and they started right at 1 second

It was hard to tell I wasn’t driving it was approx 100 we actually did 3 races from a dig I don’t know which one this was.

how about the launch…why could we hear the S4 engine bouncing revs. If its a DSG and has launch control shouldnt it have been a steady hold at 3500 RPM then go

What are you talking about that’s how Launch control works http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/508657-New-S6-vs-S4-(Stage-2-)

weird, I’ve driven a two stock dsg b8 cars and showed the owners how launch control works but I don’t remember the lilting. Probably because I didn’t have to wait for anything. And they had no intake or exhaust so you wouldn’t hear much.

little lul

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=530954

I’m expecting a destroyed filler plate soon